- From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:34:57 +0000 (UTC)
- To: Glenn Maynard <glenn@zewt.org>
- Cc: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org, Edward O'Connor <eoconnor@apple.com>
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, Glenn Maynard wrote: k > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote: > > > > You just have to write .thing:not([hidden]), or have an explicit > > [hidden] rule. It's not a big deal. > > This is a cumbersome, hackish workaround. To be honest, in practice I almost always have a rule for [hidden] because I rarely want it to use 'display: none' anyway. So I don't really agree that it's hackish or cumbersome, at least not in my case. > I shouldn't have to care about whether an element might have its @hidden > property set when I set an element to inline-block, and I shouldn't need > to hack up my CSS when I hide an element. That's like saying you shouldn't have to care whether a form control is disabled when you set its color, or whether a link is visited when you set its color, or whether a <details> or <dialog> element is open when you set its dimensions, or what the rel="" value on a link is when you set its cursor, or various other similar cases. > > The better solution would be for us to cascade the display type > > separately from the rendering tree inclusion/exclusion decision, but > > that boat sailed a long time ago. > > Surely nothing prevents adding a CSS property, eg. "shown: no", which > takes precedence over display when set to "no" and does nothing when set > to "yes". It's probably too late to change @hidden to use it, though > maybe not; it would probably break a roughly equal number of sites as > the change proposed here would. I meant the ship had sailed for making 'display' a shorthand, but I guess in theory we could still do this. In fact, people periodically say display-inner/display-outer should be introduced. This kind of thing, if done right, would certainly avoid this particular issue in the future for hidden="". Not a quick fix, though. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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