- From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:54:23 +0000 (UTC)
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 2012-02-12 2:13, Ian Hickson wrote: > > > > That's not to say that one day we won't provide an explicit way to > > mark up attribution for <blockquote>s in markup, just that the desired > > presentation isn't a relevant concern in doing so > > The relationship between a quotation and the indication of source is not > presentational, and more than being a quotation is presentational. Agreed. > The <blockquote> has been, and will be, rather pointless without markup > for ?credits? (indication of author and source, which are normally > required by law). What's the use case, other than presentation? On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Smylers wrote: > Ian Hickson writes: > > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Kevin Marks wrote: > > > > > There is another common pattern, seen in blogging a lot, of putting > > > the citation at the top eg > > > As <cite class="vcard"><a href="http://www.gyford.com/phil/" > > > class="url" rel="acquaintance met colleague"><abbr title="Phil Gyford" > > > class="fn">Phil</abbr></a></cite> wrote about the <a > > > href="http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2009/04/28/geocities.php">ugly > > > and neglected fragments</a> of Geocities:</p> > > > > > > <blockquote> > > > <p>GeoCities is an awful, ugly, decrepit mess. And this is why it > > > will be sorely missed. It?s not only a fine example of the amateur web > > > vernacular but much of it is an increasingly rare example of a > > > <em>period</em> web vernacular. GeoCities sites show what normal, > > > non-designer, people will create if given the tools available around > > > the turn of the millennium.</p> > > > </blockquote> > > > > ... the current markup handles it fine already (as you demonstrate > > above). > > Using <cite> like that isn't conforming, surely? You're right, I missed that <cite> was used instead of <span> there. The key part was the use of a paragrah giving attribution just before a blockquote being sufficient for practical purposes in blog comment cases such as the one Kevin was describing. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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