- From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 07:50:44 +0900
Le 4 janv. 2007 ? 01:41, Henri Sivonen a ?crit : > On Jan 3, 2007, at 18:22, Karl Dubost wrote: > >> As a side note, the fact that human authors are the main users of >> the data doesn't mean that the rest of tools is useless. > > If HTML had unambiguous sourcing of quotations, what cool software > would you write that would consume the markup? Given into account that the notion of "cool" is very subjective and tied to one's interests. * http://web.archive.org/web/20030211001151/http://diveintomark.org/ archives/quotations/ http://web.archive.org/web/20030207035922/diveintomark.org/archives/ citations/ http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/01/28/autocontent * technorati, bloglines like http://www.bookorati.com/ * threading for commenting system on Weblogs a database of well known quotations, authors. a databse of poetry frequency analysis of quotes for texts. I can also imagine a tool which displays possibility to have more information on the quotes contained in the page by displaying a widget with more exploration: spontaneous buy of the source which has been cited (without to necessary use amazon), or get more information about an author, redirecting to wikipedia ala PageMapper http://labs.metacarta.com/PageMapper/ or OpenLayers http://openlayers.org/ > How would you convince authors to produce the markup? For those who have an immediate benefits for their own markup do the effort. It is a bit like math. Most people use substraction and addition, a bit less multiplication, a bit less division, though on simple calculator, there are the 4 operations. For weblogs authoring tools, definitely in some circumstances, the forms or templating of any kind. http://www.w3.org/2000/08/eb58 See for example, a simple way with a bookmarklet to cite a Web document. javascript:void(window.open('%20').document.write('%3Ctextarea% 20rows=20%20cols=80%3E%3Cblockquote%20cite=%22'+location.href+'%22%3E \n\n%3Cp%3E'+document.getSelection()+'%3C/p%3E\n\n%3C/blockquote%3E\n \n%3Cp%3E%3Ccite%3E%3Ca%20href=%22'+location.href+'%22% 3E'+document.title+'%3C/a%3E%3Cbr%20/%3E'+new%20Date (document.lastModified).toUTCString()+'%3C/cite%3E%3C/p%3E%3C/textarea %3E')) In NetNewsWire, it already exists, you can Copy a quote, the generated markup is not "perfect" but it shows exactly one of the possibility for authoring it. http://jumpserve.com/blanco/archives/2002/08/30/cool-netnewswire- blogging-feature/ http://face.centosprime.com/macosxw/?p=98 In fact the feature of "copy HTML with attribution" could be in any kind of Web browsers by default. -- Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/ W3C Conformance Manager, QA Activity Lead QA Weblog - http://www.w3.org/QA/ *** Be Strict To Be Cool ***
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