Re: Removing WebVR from W3C

Dominique is well meaning, but as far as I'm aware no members of the
community group have stated that we want to move forward with formalizing
as a W3C working group.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:11 AM Leonard Daly <web3d@realism.com> wrote:

> Brandon,
>
> About 3 hours before you posted this, I got a message from Dominique
> Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org> <dom@w3.org> [Subject: WebVR Working Group
> charter under W3C AC review] through this list stating that a proposed
> WebVR working group charter was submitted today. [
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2017Jul/0002.html].
> Review date cutoff is 18 August.
>
> That action by the W3C seems to directly contradict your second sentence.
> Please comment.
>
> Leonard Daly
>
>
> WebVR is currently hosted as a W3C community group. Despite the name that
> does not imply that WebVR must become a W3C working group. We could still
> go off and become a Khronos standard if we deemed that to be appropriate
> and Khronos wanted to have us, for example. But that ignores the basic fact
> that we're generally not interested in officially joining a standards group
> just yet. We'd prefer to finish getting some of the basics locked down
> while we can be a bit more casual and fluid before settling down into a
> more rigorous process.
>
> We'll weigh the pros and cons of the various standards bodies when we're
> at a point that we're ready to join one.
>
> --Brandon
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:31 AM David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Jul 11, 2017, at 9:25 , Florian Bösch <pyalot@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to express my vote of no confidence against the W3C. I
>> believe the organization is inherently biased towards pushing DRM (for
>> whatever reason I don't care to speculate). I think the W3C has become an
>> inappropriate place to host a standard such as WebVR. The DRM discussion is
>> highly contentious and unproductive and distracts from the real challenges
>> of WebVR. It is my desire to see this standard hosted by a truly impartial
>> body.
>>
>> One person has asked one question on this list about whether WebVR and
>> protected media might work together, and from this you conclude inherent
>> bias?
>>
>> I cannot agree with you more on this, though: "The DRM discussion is
>> highly contentious and unproductive”.
>>
>> "Truly impartial" means that we don’t refuse to discuss technical matters
>> that people want to discuss, by the way.
>>
>>
>> David Singer
>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>
>>
>>
> --
> *Leonard Daly*
> 3D Systems Architect & Cloud Consultant
> President, Daly Realism - *Creating the Future*
>