Re: Removing WebVR from W3C

Well someone has proposed a charter. It's at 
https://www.w3.org/2017/07/vr-wg-charter.html. The mission of the WebVR 
WG is "to help bring high-performance Virtual Reality (VR) to the open 
Web via an API to interact with virtual reality devices in browsers." 
The expected completion is 3Q2018. The first teleconference is Sep, with 
the first F2F scheduled for November.

Does anyone know who submitted the charter? Khronos is mentioned in the 
"External Organizations" section.

Leonard Daly




> Dominique is well meaning, but as far as I'm aware no members of the 
> community group have stated that we want to move forward with 
> formalizing as a W3C working group.
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:11 AM Leonard Daly <web3d@realism.com 
> <mailto:web3d@realism.com>> wrote:
>
>     Brandon,
>
>     About 3 hours before you posted this, I got a message from
>     Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org> <mailto:dom@w3.org>
>     [Subject: WebVR Working Group charter under W3C AC review] through
>     this list stating that a proposed WebVR working group charter was
>     submitted today.
>     [https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2017Jul/0002.html].
>     Review date cutoff is 18 August.
>
>     That action by the W3C seems to directly contradict your second
>     sentence. Please comment.
>
>     Leonard Daly
>
>
>>     WebVR is currently hosted as a W3C community group. Despite the
>>     name that does not imply that WebVR must become a W3C working
>>     group. We could still go off and become a Khronos standard if we
>>     deemed that to be appropriate and Khronos wanted to have us, for
>>     example. But that ignores the basic fact that we're generally not
>>     interested in officially joining a standards group just yet. We'd
>>     prefer to finish getting some of the basics locked down while we
>>     can be a bit more casual and fluid before settling down into a
>>     more rigorous process.
>>
>>     We'll weigh the pros and cons of the various standards bodies
>>     when we're at a point that we're ready to join one.
>>
>>     --Brandon
>>
>>     On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:31 AM David Singer <singer@apple.com
>>     <mailto:singer@apple.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         > On Jul 11, 2017, at 9:25 , Florian Bösch <pyalot@gmail.com
>>         <mailto:pyalot@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         > I would like to express my vote of no confidence against
>>         the W3C. I believe the organization is inherently biased
>>         towards pushing DRM (for whatever reason I don't care to
>>         speculate). I think the W3C has become an inappropriate place
>>         to host a standard such as WebVR. The DRM discussion is
>>         highly contentious and unproductive and distracts from the
>>         real challenges of WebVR. It is my desire to see this
>>         standard hosted by a truly impartial body.
>>
>>         One person has asked one question on this list about whether
>>         WebVR and protected media might work together, and from this
>>         you conclude inherent bias?
>>
>>         I cannot agree with you more on this, though: "The DRM
>>         discussion is highly contentious and unproductive”.
>>
>>         "Truly impartial" means that we don’t refuse to discuss
>>         technical matters that people want to discuss, by the way.
>>
>>
>>         David Singer
>>         Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>
>>
>
>     -- 
>     *Leonard Daly*
>     3D Systems Architect & Cloud Consultant
>     President, Daly Realism - /Creating the Future/
>

-- 
*Leonard Daly*
3D Systems Architect & Cloud Consultant
President, Daly Realism - /Creating the Future/