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Re[2]: To discuss the title, I opend my draft

From: Futomi Hatano <futomi.hatano@newphoria.co.jp>
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 12:36:13 +0900
To: Satoru Takagi <sa-takagi@kddi.com>
Cc: public-websignage@w3.org
Message-Id: <20130525123613.EFE6.17D6BAFB@newphoria.co.jp>
Hi Satoru,

I know your anxiety.
But I think you are a little bit too worried regarding the sub title.

Let me explain the meanings of the main title and the sub title at first.

* The main title
This is a collective term representing the set of docs we are planning to make.

* The sub title
This is a title representing each doc, such as "Core", "Media", etc.

As you know, the set of the docs is not a subset of a specific specification something,
such as SVG Tiny, Compact HTML.
It's just requirements for web-based signage.
It is not intended to introduce fragmentation to the WEB.
I agree that the term "Profile" is not appropriate for the main title,
because the set of docs is not a subset of something.
On the other hand, the each doc is a subset of the requirements (the set of the docs).

However, the term "profile" does not mean "subset" literally.
It means just a description of characteristics of something.
http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/profile
Generally, it doesn't imply "fragmentation" nor "subset".

I think the term "profile" is not inappropriate for the sub title,
and no one misunderstands the meanings reading "profile" in the sub title.

How about renaming the sub title *if by any chance* some people misunderstand?

Cheers,
Futomi


On Fri, 24 May 2013 19:06:14 +0900
Satoru Takagi <sa-takagi@kddi.com> wrote:

> Hi Futomi san,
> 
> I am circumspect about defining "Profiles" regardless of "Core".
> It may affect what we want to promote web based signage relying on. The core of the profile will 
> depend on HTML5 in wide sense if we want to rely on HTML5 in wide sense. But HTML5 in wide sense 
> does not seem to be prescribed closely. However, the outline is seen in various places. For example,
>  it is suggested on the page of HTML5 Logo of the W3C. *1 Therefore, it will become the important 
> requirements that profile of web based signage is based on such things.
> 
> On the other hand, we should prescribe original Profile if we do not want to rely on HTML5 in wide 
> sense. In addition, I do not like that TV and Mobile and Signage have individual Profile very much. 
> Because they may promote fragmentation of the WWW.
> 
> I wish one general-purpose not specific use cases oriented Profile called HTML5 in wide sense is 
> established first.
> 
> *1: http://www.w3.org/html/logo/ 
> In this page's class section, the followings are enumerated.
> HTML5, RDFa, microdata, microformats, App Cache, Local Storage, Indexed DB, File API, Geolocation 
> API, audio/video input, contacts & events, tilt orientation, Web Sockets, Server-Sent Events, Audio,
>  video, SVG, Canvas, WebGL, CSS3 3D, Web Workers, XMLHttpRequest 2, CSS3, WOFF
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Satoru
> 
> > Hi Satoru,
> > 
> > Thanks for your comment.
> > Responses inline below.
> > 
> > On Tue, 21 May 2013 12:07:51 +0900
> > Satoru Takagi <sa-takagi@kddi.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Futomi san,
> > > 
> > > Thank you for publication of your hard work.
> > > 
> > > I read the document. And I understood that the positioning of this document is  the followings 
> for 
> > > contents for signage player.
> > > * Definition of a term and the concept (Or it is the architecture and model.)
> > > * Detailed requirements
> > 
> > Definitely yes.
> > As your understanding, the document defines just detailed requirements.
> > 
> > > I think that this is an important document for this BG.
> > > 
> > > Now, I consider "Profile" at W3C to be the subsets or collections of individual features and 
> > > functions in existing standards. Therefore I thought this document to be different from profile.
> > 
> > Exactly.
> > It seems to be better to change "Profile" to the other term.
> > 
> > > How about the following titles?
> > > "Architecture and Requirements for Web-based Signage Player"
> > 
> > Sounds nice.
> > Thanks for your idea.
> > 
> > BTW, how do you think "profile" in "Core profile"?
> > The term "profile" in "Core profile" means a subset of the documents we are addressing.
> > Is it confusing?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Futomi
> > 
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> > Chief Technology Officer
> > Futomi Hatano
> > --
> > futomi.hatano@newphoria.co.jp
> > http://www.newphoria.co.jp/
> > 
> > 
> > 

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