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Re: [rtcweb] ICE exposes 'real' local IP to javascript

From: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:03:11 -0800
Message-ID: <CAOJ7v-2oWZEqe+fACwsZOfYaHaWxFawtMzQvrQaCSeiwHcS+9Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
Cc: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, "public-webrtc@w3.org" <public-webrtc@w3.org>
I think the concern over private IP addresses is a side issue.

The main issue, as Tim indicates, is the surfacing of interfaces other than
the VPN or proxy when using such a configuration; right now the only
workaround is to disable WebRTC.

I would be in favor of a browser switch that could control whether other
interfaces are enumerated and used when HTTP traffic is being sent through
a VPN or proxy. This is similar to the 'leaky' vs 'sealed' policy described
and this switch could be set to either value depending on whether the
user/browser wants to optimize for maximizing QoS or minimizing information

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net> wrote:

> * Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> >Den 05. feb. 2015 07:39, skrev Bjoern Hoehrmann:
> >> * Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> >>> We have discussed this before, and concluded that a confirmation dialog
> >>> makes no more sense than having a confirmation dialog for performing an
> >>> XHR request or opening a Websocket - neither of which requires
> >>> confirmation dialogs today.
> >>
> >> Neither of those disclose information not otherwise available to random
> >> web sites, so that is not a valid comparison.
> >
> >"Not otherwise" is a misnomer here. They expose a ton of information
> >(think HTTP headers), but the information they expose is inherent in
> >providing the functionality they do provide. The reason we don't think
> >of them as such is because we've become used to that information being
> >provided.
> A XMLHttpRequest message might contain a User-Agent header the content
> of which is available to script through the `navigator` object, and it
> might contain a Cookie header the content of which is already known to
> the server, it might contain a username and password for which the user
> got prompted, it might contain an Accept-Language header that is also
> sent out when requesting an <img>, and so on and so forth. None of the
> examples are similar to the case at hand,
>   * there is no getLocalIpAddresses() API
>   * the server does not already know the local IP addresses
>   * the user did not get prompted to provide them
>   * requesting an <img> does not disclose local IP addresses
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