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Re: Signaling without a server

From: Dan Ristic <danr@pubnub.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 15:33:54 -0700
Message-ID: <CACVAH2fBy=GS7CrXHnwatQuVQEchtiJP5vd5VJVOV_tfgY=cGg@mail.gmail.com>
To: piranna@gmail.com
Cc: public-webrtc <public-webrtc@w3.org>, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
I believe having a way to discover your computer without requiring a server
might not feel very secure. It would be hard to settle on a solution that
works for most cases and also is secure to users. I feel like it should be
up to the implementer to ensure they are connecting their users in a safe
manner.
On Jun 9, 2013 2:37 PM, "piranna@gmail.com" <piranna@gmail.com> wrote:

> > You don't technically need a server; it's just the easiest way to set up
> a
> > session. Technically, all you need is some means of rendezvous and a
> channel
> > to exchange information about device capability, intention, location on
> the
> > network, and so on. You can use any arbitrary means to exchange that
> > information, as long as it's kind of real-time in nature
>
> Yeah, I know. In fact, currently I'm using an annonimous XMPP server
> and a PubNub channel, but this seems to me a little bit of "hackerish"
> and also it's still requiring an external server to do the
> bootstrapping (I'm developing a P2P framework over WebRTC -
> http://shareit.es and http://webp2p.io , the webs are work-in-progress
> -, and after joining the network subsequent handshakings can be done
> without problems using the other peers as intermediates), just only
> that you are using one that you don't manage. I'm talking about not
> requiring servers at all. Some people (like in the link that you send
> me) have ask me about setting by hand the IP and port, maybe after
> connecting to the STUN server to have the connection info available
> (using only a STUN server would be more truly considered "serverless"
> than requiring an annonimous XMPP server... :-D ). Also, my first idea
> was to write the SDPs by hand in the same way the example on your link
> works or reaching them from public published ones on blog posts or
> similar places, but it was told me that SDPs expire after just some
> minutes, so this was a no way. I asking about we could discuss some
> solution on this way...
>
>
> > carrier pigeon would pose problems
> >
> Lol, I though I was the only one was still doing this joke :-P
>
>
> --
> "Si quieres viajar alrededor del mundo y ser invitado a hablar en un
> monton de sitios diferentes, simplemente escribe un sistema operativo
> Unix."
>  Linus Tordvals, creador del sistema operativo Linux
>
>
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