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Re: Webplatform dead?

From: Andre Jay Meissner <ameissne@adobe.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 19:13:15 +0000
To: Francesco Iovine <f.iovine@gmail.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
CC: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>, Martin Beeby <Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com>, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>
Message-ID: <D15B1BB5.965D6%ameissne@adobe.com>
This is a genius plan my man. Please report how it goes and more importantly, what I can contribute to make it a success.


Von: Francesco Iovine <f.iovine@gmail.com<mailto:f.iovine@gmail.com>>
Datum: KW 17 | Montag, 20. April 2015 15:44
An: Martin Beeby <Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com<mailto:Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com>>
Cc: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com<mailto:phistuck@gmail.com>>, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me<mailto:jonathan@garbee.me>>, "public-webplatform@w3.org<mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>" <public-webplatform@w3.org<mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>>
Betreff: Re: Webplatform dead?
Neu gesendet von: "public-webplatform@w3.org<mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>" <public-webplatform@w3.org<mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>>
Neu gesendet am: KW 17 | Montag, 20. April 2015 15:45

Hello all,

I've recently stepped up as organiser of the following meetup group in London, and rebranded it as Web Platform London, as an experiment:


The idea behind this experiment is to promote self-organised free meetups, in cafes or offices, but mainly in cafes, of people keen to share a project, knowledge etc. and participate in building the Web Platform with a number of activities, including writing documentation.

I would love your feedback, before giving up or start building the community.

Warm Regards,


On 11 April 2015 at 10:01, Martin Beeby <Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com<mailto:Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com>> wrote:
On a personal note. I wanted to contribute more than I have... Life gets in the way.  Maybe you have given me the prompt I need to get more involved.

Kindest Regards
Martin Beeby
Technical Evangelist
Skype: thebeebsuk
Twitter: thebeebs
Phone: 0118 9092895
From: PhistucK<mailto:phistuck@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎11/‎04/‎2015 09:48
To: Jonathan Garbee<mailto:jonathan@garbee.me>
Cc: public-webplatform@w3.org<mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Webplatform dead?

While it is not dead, some vendors (or a single vendor?) are instructing their members to prefer<https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/2_hw97dJ0NQJ> other<https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/fhNVU0s8DCQJ> documentation venues.
To me, this is really sad.

Perhaps you can do something about it?


On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee..me<mailto:jonathan@garbee.me>> wrote:
These kinds of projects also don't just get a jump start then take off and keep going. Initial interest happens, all the people who are just interested head out, then you are left with a far smaller group of core contributors. Then over time that core group even changes as life happens and new shiny things come along. (Try to recall the often provided bell-curve of tech adoption, then make the curve narrower and far more dramatic. Then toss a few more curves in over time.)

Documentation projects in particular have one major flaw, people don't feel it is worth their time to contribute. They are paid to do write code that functions and move on to the next thing. So taking time out to contribute to a document is hardly on their mind. WPD is in a very slow-pace area and we want contributors that really care about the quality of their work. That quality comes at the cost of things moving even slower.

Things aren't dead, they are just stagnant. As WPD offers wider community engagement then hopefully we can collect a few more core contributors that will make things not seem so slow. I'd much rather have a handful of core contributors that do true quality work then an army of low-quality contributions that makes things seem more active. The content provided is far more useful in the end that way.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org<mailto:schepers@w3.org>> wrote:
Yes, Austin has been a really prolific contributor (thanks!), and we also have Nishanth Babu adding beginner DOM tutorials, among many other contributors and content.

We've actually concentrated quite a lot on infrastructure over the last few months; Renoir has done a great job.

We're even adding over some new functionality, like specs.webplatform.org<http://specs..webplatform.org> that hosts more experimental specifications, and adding a technical discussion area where developers and designers can ask questions about spec development. Our emphasis is on closing the gap between standards development and developers.


On 4/10/15 6:31 PM, Austin William Wright wrote:
Slow maybe, not dead. Over the last month I've touched almost all the
HTML element pages, merging duplicates, adding examples, correcting
normative references, and importing data.

I also noticed a great TLS/HTTPS upgrade, and MediaWiki upgrade, iirc.
So even the server is getting love, it's not just me.

Austin Wright.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ric Johnson <ric@opendomain.org<mailto:ric@opendomain.org>
<mailto:ric@opendomain.org<mailto:ric@opendomain.org>>> wrote:

    Is the WebPlatform project dead?  I have not seen any progress in
    quite a while.

    I thought this was an amazing chance to help new developers learn
    web technologies, but it seems that we have dropped the ball.

    Is there anyone interested in kicking this project back on gear?

    Ric Johnson

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