Re: Webplatform Facebook Group

I am willing to contribute in the publication of the group. I also support having an additional community on Google+.

Btw, I've sent a request to join the WebPlatform.org group -- please accept the request and make me an admin too so that I can kickstart creating docs in the group.

(I'll soon delete the group I made. I've told the members to migrate. There are 12 people in that group in total)

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</Abhimanyu>



---- On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 01:43:02 +0530 Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote ---- 

Hi, Abhimanyu– 
 
Thanks for taking the initiative to create that Facebook group. 
 
Actually, we already created a Facebook group as an experiment, back 
when you first suggested it. We'd prefer to use that site; we've taken 
the liberty of adding you as an admin. 
 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/WebPlatform.org/ 
 
Let's continue this discussion about how to best use this resource, and 
other social media resources. 
 
Regards– 
–Doug 
 
 
On 4/16/15 11:56 PM, abhimanyu0003 wrote: 
> Thanks for accepting this proposal. G+ is not better than Facebook, 
> they're both the same (with Facebook's membership times more than G+'). 
> There are many technical groups on Facebook too, you probably have just 
> not looked. Their differences don't matter, they're both the same. 
> 
> I also agree that we need proper marketing and publicising but first, 
> we'll need to make the group active and add as many members from WPD as 
> we can. Here's the URL, so if you have a Facebook account, just visit it. 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/WebPlatformOfficial/ 
> 
> I could publicise it in appropriate places, but I'm not sure that will 
> be very helpful when we've just begun. First we have to establish some 
> authority, so that when people look, they know that we mean serious 
> content. A new group won't give that impression, so let's stay away from 
> publicising right now (however, we can use technical forums to target 
> aspiring members saying that we're new and need members, that'll be a 
> totally different thing). 
> 
> --- 
> </Abhimanyu> 
> 
> 
> ---- On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:54:05 +0530 *Doug Schepers 
> <schepers@w3.org>* wrote ---- 
> 
> Hi, Russell– 
> 
> I tend agree with you that G+ might be a better place to get 
> high-quality contributions, but I'm open to anything that helps 
> build an 
> maintain the contributor community. 
> 
> I like what you're saying about marketing and publicity. Are you 
> interested in helping brainstorm and drive that? 
> 
> Regards– 
> –Doug 
> 
> On 4/16/15 10:41 PM, Russell wrote: 
> > Hi All, 
> > 
> > I've been eavesdropping for a while and finally thought I would 
> throw in 
> > my two cents on this. Probably more like two hundred cents.. 
> > 
> > I think the group needs a lot more exposure, but I am worried that a 
> > Facebook group could bring in a lot of bad submissions. Is there 
> an easy 
> > way to manage non-serious submissions? I have seen much more of a 
> > programmer / IT community on G+, so I would throw in my vote for 
> that 
> > before Facebook, but we still have the potential for the same 
> problem. 
> > Twitter could be even better, but there is already a web platform 
> > account, it just doesn't seem to be doing much evangelism. 
> > 
> > Either way, we definitely need a core group of individuals 
> dedicated to 
> > marketing and publicity if this project is going to take off like it 
> > needs to. I remember hearing about the webplatform when it first 
> started 
> > up and remember the excitement within myself and my fellow 
> developers, 
> > but I don't think anyone really remembers anything about it until 
> they 
> > randomly stumble upon it again. All the devs I know use MDN, Dash, 
> > devdocs.io <http://devdocs.io>, or whatwg. I find myself using those 
> > more often too, as webplatform doesn't seem to have the "umph" 
> needed to 
> > take over. 
> > 
> > Part of this is because webplatform rarely shows on Google results. 
> > Webplatform.org does not rank anywhere close to MDN and we are not 
> > showing for the most common of css/html/javascript searches. We 
> need to 
> > hit Google's front-page, and thinking about it more now, I think 
> that is 
> > most important. Let's make all the groups. 
> > 
> > Have we worked on SEO at all? Is anyone pointing to webplatform.org 
> > <http://webplatform.org>'s site when answering stackoverflow 
> questions? 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:13 PM Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org 
> <mailto:schepers@w3.org> 
> > <mailto:schepers@w3.org>> wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi, Abhimanyu– 
> > 
> > Okay, let's explore this idea again. I admit to being skeptical, 
> but if 
> > you think it will help get more contributors, and to keep 
> contributors 
> > active, then I'm open to at least testing it. 
> > 
> > What do you suggest for next steps? 
> > 
> > Regards– 
> > –Doug 
> > 
> > On 4/12/15 3:26 AM, abhimanyu0003 wrote: 
> > > I recommended months ago of having a solid third-party, somewhat 
> > > clutter-ish and compromised portal: an open Facebook group. 
> > > 
> > > I love the WPD and it'll one of the best technical projects in the 
> > > future, but my other priorities are so easy to get my hands into, 
> > while 
> > > contributing and discussing WPD work is non-modern. 
> > > 
> > > An open Facebook group will mean our attention being diverted 
> to WPD 
> > > more frequently and have much more members (an open group is 
> seen by 
> > > friends ofall members, thus increasing our visibility and getting 
> > more 
> > > enthusiastic contributors). 
> > > 
> > > --- 
> > > </Abhimanyu> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---- On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:19:12 +0530 *aaa@bzfx.net 
> <mailto:aaa@bzfx.net> 
> > <mailto:aaa@bzfx.net>* wrote ---- 
> > > 
> > > Have we reached out to see how we can be more accommodating?i 
> > > 
> > > I'd much prefer not using a vendor-specific, or even 
> > > vendor-controlled, source. 
> > > 
> > > Austin. 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 1:46 AM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com 
> <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com> 
> > <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com> 
> > > <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com>>> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > While it is not dead, some vendors (or a single vendor?) are 
> > > instructing their members to prefer 
> > > 
> > 
> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/2_hw97dJ0NQJ> 
> 
> > > other 
> > > 
> > 
> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/fhNVU0s8DCQJ> 
> 
> > > documentation venues. 
> > > To me, this is really sad. 
> > > 
> > > Perhaps you can do something about it? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ☆*PhistucK* 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Jonathan Garbee 
> > > <jonathan@garbee.me <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me> 
> <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me> 
> > <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me>>> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > These kinds of projects also don't just get a jump start 
> > > then take off and keep going. Initial interest 
> > happens, all 
> > > the people who are just interested head out, then you are 
> > > left with a far smaller group of core contributors. Then 
> > > over time that core group even changes as life 
> > happens and 
> > > new shiny things come along. (Try to recall the often 
> > > provided bell-curve of tech adoption, then make the curve 
> > > narrower and far more dramatic. Then toss a few more 
> > curves 
> > > in over time.) 
> > > 
> > > Documentation projects in particular have one major flaw, 
> > > people don't feel it is worth their time to 
> > contribute. They 
> > > are paid to do write code that functions and move on 
> > to the 
> > > next thing. So taking time out to contribute to a 
> > document 
> > > is hardly on their mind. WPD is in a very slow-pace 
> > area and 
> > > we want contributors that really care about the 
> > quality of 
> > > their work. That quality comes at the cost of things 
> > moving 
> > > even slower. 
> > > 
> > > Things aren't dead, they are just stagnant. As WPD offers 
> > > wider community engagement then hopefully we can 
> > collect a 
> > > few more core contributors that will make things not 
> > seem so 
> > > slow. I'd much rather have a handful of core contributors 
> > > that do true quality work then an army of low-quality 
> > > contributions that makes things seem more active. The 
> > > content provided is far more useful in the end that way. 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Doug Schepers 
> > > <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org> <mailto:schepers@w3.org> 
> > <mailto:schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Yes, Austin has been a really prolific contributor 
> > > (thanks!), and we also have Nishanth Babu adding 
> > > beginner DOM tutorials, among many other contributors 
> > > and content. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > We've actually concentrated quite a lot on 
> > > infrastructure over the last few months; Renoir 
> > has done 
> > > a great job. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > We're even adding over some new functionality, like 
> > > specs.webplatform.org <http://specs.webplatform.org> 
> > <http://specs.webplatform.org> 
> > > that hosts more experimental specifications, and 
> > adding 
> > > a technical discussion area where developers and 
> > > designers can ask questions about spec 
> > development. Our 
> > > emphasis is on closing the gap between standards 
> > > development and developers. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards– 
> > > 
> > > –Doug 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 4/10/15 6:31 PM, Austin William Wright wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Slow maybe, not dead. Over the last month I've 
> > > touched almost all the 
> > > 
> > > HTML element pages, merging duplicates, adding 
> > > examples, correcting 
> > > 
> > > normative references, and importing data. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I also noticed a great TLS/HTTPS upgrade, and 
> > > MediaWiki upgrade, iirc. 
> > > 
> > > So even the server is getting love, it's not 
> > just me. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Austin Wright. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ric Johnson 
> > > <ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org> 
> > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org> <mailto:ric@opendomain.org 
> > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>> 
> > > 
> > > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org 
> > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org> 
> > > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org 
> > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>>>> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is the WebPlatform project dead? I have not 
> > > seen any progress in 
> > > 
> > > quite a while. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I thought this was an amazing chance to help 
> > > new developers learn 
> > > 
> > > web technologies, but it seems that we have 
> > > dropped the ball. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is there anyone interested in kicking this 
> > > project back on gear? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ric Johnson 
> > > 
> > > OpenDomain 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
>

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