- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:24:59 -0400
- To: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>, abhimanyu0003 <abhimanyu@japanaddicts.org>
- CC: Russell <sgtpooki@gmail.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Sounds like a good idea. Could we do that for both Facebook and G+? On 4/17/15 9:27 AM, PhistucK wrote: > Should there be a bot that collects the posts and comments and publishes > them on a mailing list (and maybe also the other way around)? > > > ☆*PhistucK* > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:56 AM, abhimanyu0003 > <abhimanyu@japanaddicts.org <mailto:abhimanyu@japanaddicts.org>> wrote: > > __ > Thanks for accepting this proposal. G+ is not better than Facebook, > they're both the same (with Facebook's membership times more than > G+'). There are many technical groups on Facebook too, you probably > have just not looked. Their differences don't matter, they're both > the same. > > I also agree that we need proper marketing and publicising but > first, we'll need to make the group active and add as many members > from WPD as we can. Here's the URL, so if you have a Facebook > account, just visit it. > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/WebPlatformOfficial/ > > I could publicise it in appropriate places, but I'm not sure that > will be very helpful when we've just begun. First we have to > establish some authority, so that when people look, they know that > we mean serious content. A new group won't give that impression, so > let's stay away from publicising right now (however, we can use > technical forums to target aspiring members saying that we're new > and need members, that'll be a totally different thing). > > --- > </Abhimanyu> > > > ---- On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:54:05 +0530 *Doug Schepers > <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>* wrote ---- > > Hi, Russell– > > I tend agree with you that G+ might be a better place to get > high-quality contributions, but I'm open to anything that helps > build an > maintain the contributor community. > > I like what you're saying about marketing and publicity. Are you > interested in helping brainstorm and drive that? > > Regards– > –Doug > > On 4/16/15 10:41 PM, Russell wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I've been eavesdropping for a while and finally thought I > would throw in > > my two cents on this. Probably more like two hundred cents.. > > > > I think the group needs a lot more exposure, but I am worried > that a > > Facebook group could bring in a lot of bad submissions. Is > there an easy > > way to manage non-serious submissions? I have seen much more > of a > > programmer / IT community on G+, so I would throw in my vote > for that > > before Facebook, but we still have the potential for the same > problem. > > Twitter could be even better, but there is already a web > platform > > account, it just doesn't seem to be doing much evangelism. > > > > Either way, we definitely need a core group of individuals > dedicated to > > marketing and publicity if this project is going to take off > like it > > needs to. I remember hearing about the webplatform when it > first started > > up and remember the excitement within myself and my fellow > developers, > > but I don't think anyone really remembers anything about it > until they > > randomly stumble upon it again. All the devs I know use MDN, > Dash, > > devdocs.io <http://devdocs.io> <http://devdocs.io>, or > whatwg. I find myself using those > > more often too, as webplatform doesn't seem to have the > "umph" needed to > > take over. > > > > Part of this is because webplatform rarely shows on Google > results. > > Webplatform.org does not rank anywhere close to MDN and we > are not > > showing for the most common of css/html/javascript searches. > We need to > > hit Google's front-page, and thinking about it more now, I > think that is > > most important. Let's make all the groups. > > > > Have we worked on SEO at all? Is anyone pointing to > webplatform.org <http://webplatform.org> > > <http://webplatform.org>'s site when answering stackoverflow > questions? > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:13 PM Doug Schepers > <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org> > > <mailto:schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>> wrote: > > > > Hi, Abhimanyu– > > > > Okay, let's explore this idea again. I admit to being > skeptical, but if > > you think it will help get more contributors, and to keep > contributors > > active, then I'm open to at least testing it. > > > > What do you suggest for next steps? > > > > Regards– > > –Doug > > > > On 4/12/15 3:26 AM, abhimanyu0003 wrote: > > > I recommended months ago of having a solid third-party, > somewhat > > > clutter-ish and compromised portal: an open Facebook group. > > > > > > I love the WPD and it'll one of the best technical projects > in the > > > future, but my other priorities are so easy to get my hands > into, > > while > > > contributing and discussing WPD work is non-modern. > > > > > > An open Facebook group will mean our attention being > diverted to WPD > > > more frequently and have much more members (an open group > is seen by > > > friends ofall members, thus increasing our visibility and > getting > > more > > > enthusiastic contributors). > > > > > > --- > > > </Abhimanyu> > > > > > > > > > ---- On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:19:12 +0530 *aaa@bzfx.net > <mailto:aaa@bzfx.net> > > <mailto:aaa@bzfx.net <mailto:aaa@bzfx.net>>* wrote ---- > > > > > > Have we reached out to see how we can be more accommodating?i > > > > > > I'd much prefer not using a vendor-specific, or even > > > vendor-controlled, source. > > > > > > Austin. > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 1:46 AM, PhistucK > <phistuck@gmail.com <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com> > > <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com>> > > > <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com> > <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com>>>> wrote: > > > > > > While it is not dead, some vendors (or a single vendor?) are > > > instructing their members to prefer > > > > > > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/2_hw97dJ0NQJ> > > > > other > > > > > > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/fhNVU0s8DCQJ> > > > > documentation venues. > > > To me, this is really sad. > > > > > > Perhaps you can do something about it? > > > > > > > > > ☆*PhistucK* > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Jonathan Garbee > > > <jonathan@garbee.me <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me> > <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me>> > > <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me> > <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me>>>> wrote: > > > > > > These kinds of projects also don't just get a jump start > > > then take off and keep going. Initial interest > > happens, all > > > the people who are just interested head out, then you are > > > left with a far smaller group of core contributors. Then > > > over time that core group even changes as life > > happens and > > > new shiny things come along. (Try to recall the often > > > provided bell-curve of tech adoption, then make the curve > > > narrower and far more dramatic. Then toss a few more > > curves > > > in over time.) > > > > > > Documentation projects in particular have one major flaw, > > > people don't feel it is worth their time to > > contribute. They > > > are paid to do write code that functions and move on > > to the > > > next thing. So taking time out to contribute to a > > document > > > is hardly on their mind. WPD is in a very slow-pace > > area and > > > we want contributors that really care about the > > quality of > > > their work. That quality comes at the cost of things > > moving > > > even slower. > > > > > > Things aren't dead, they are just stagnant. As WPD offers > > > wider community engagement then hopefully we can > > collect a > > > few more core contributors that will make things not > > seem so > > > slow. I'd much rather have a handful of core contributors > > > that do true quality work then an army of low-quality > > > contributions that makes things seem more active. The > > > content provided is far more useful in the end that way. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Doug Schepers > > > <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org> > <mailto:schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>> > > <mailto:schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org> > <mailto:schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>>> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, Austin has been a really prolific contributor > > > (thanks!), and we also have Nishanth Babu adding > > > beginner DOM tutorials, among many other contributors > > > and content. > > > > > > > > > > > > We've actually concentrated quite a lot on > > > infrastructure over the last few months; Renoir > > has done > > > a great job. > > > > > > > > > > > > We're even adding over some new functionality, like > > > specs.webplatform.org <http://specs.webplatform.org> > <http://specs.webplatform.org> > > <http://specs.webplatform.org> > > > that hosts more experimental specifications, and > > adding > > > a technical discussion area where developers and > > > designers can ask questions about spec > > development. Our > > > emphasis is on closing the gap between standards > > > development and developers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards– > > > > > > –Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/10/15 6:31 PM, Austin William Wright wrote: > > > > > > > > > Slow maybe, not dead. Over the last month I've > > > touched almost all the > > > > > > HTML element pages, merging duplicates, adding > > > examples, correcting > > > > > > normative references, and importing data. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also noticed a great TLS/HTTPS upgrade, and > > > MediaWiki upgrade, iirc. > > > > > > So even the server is getting love, it's not > > just me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Austin Wright. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ric Johnson > > > <ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org> > > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>> > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org> > > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>>> > > > > > > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org> > > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>> > > > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org> > > <mailto:ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>>>>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the WebPlatform project dead? I have not > > > seen any progress in > > > > > > quite a while. > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought this was an amazing chance to help > > > new developers learn > > > > > > web technologies, but it seems that we have > > > dropped the ball. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone interested in kicking this > > > project back on gear? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ric Johnson > > > > > > OpenDomain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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