Re: code.webplatform.org

Of course feature detections should be used. I was asking for a minimal
version for testing, not for unofficially supporting (unofficially, we
should support any user agent on any operating system on any device).


☆*PhistucK*


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Rob^_^ <iecustomizer@hotmail.com> wrote:

>   Hi,
>
> don’t go blaming a ghost in the dark yet.....
>
> is anybody else having problems with IE11 on code.webplatform.org ?
>
> so far nobodys responded yes... It must be just me.
>
> The workaround of using another browser is no problem for me... I am
> already using three.
>
> In answer to Phils question.
>
> Also, what is the minimal Internet Explorer version you expect to support?
> 11? 10? 9? 8? Anything that docs.webplatform.org supports with
> progressive enhancements?
>
> I think it should be IE8, IE9 and higher support addEventListener, inline
> svg, and various levels of HTML5 and jsAPI’s.
>
> The major web sites like google and facebook already have policies that
> states they will support the last three versions of any vendors browser.
>
> that said, I think it is important that code examples include feature
> tests, not necessarily IE8or higher feature tests . Feature test for the
> standard and offer a graceful fallback.
> eg.
> if(window.addEventListener){
> // standards
> window.addEventListener(‘event’,handler,false);
> }else{
> // legacy
> window.attachEvent(‘on’+’event’,handler);
> }
>
>  *From:* Jen Simmons <jen@jensimmons.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:34 AM
> *To:* PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> ; Renoir Boulanger <renoir@w3.org>
> ; Rob^_^ <iecustomizer@hotmail.com> ; List WebPlatform public
> <public-webplatform@w3.org> ; Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>
> *Subject:* Re: code.webplatform.org
>
>  Please don't fall into the habit of only thinking about desktop
> computers. "Chrome, Safari and Firefox and IE"? That's not enough.
>
> We should also be testing in iOS, Android, and more — both phone and
> tablet sizes. Which is Safari on iOS, Android browser, Chrome mobile,
> Firefox mobile, Opera mobile and mini, etc. I know it's more work, but this
> is what we do, make websites for people. People who use a wide diversity of
> devices. If things are well coded with progressive enhancement techniques,
> then most stuff will work on all these devices. We should test on such
> devices as well.
>
> Testing before deployment — on a variety of browsers AND devices — will
> prevent us from shipping broken stuff like this:
> http://project.webplatform.org/infrastructure/issues/100
>
> Jen
>
>  Jen Simmons
> designer, consultant and speaker
> host of The Web Ahead
> jensimmons.com
>  5by5.tv/webahead
> twitter: jensimmons <http://twitter.com/jensimmons>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Note that while it is not officially supported, it does mostly work.
>> The only issue I have found so far was the font size issue (granted, I have
>> not played with it almost at all, especially using Internet Explorer).
>>
>> Also, what is the minimal Internet Explorer version you expect to
>> support? 11? 10? 9? 8? Anything that docs.webplatform.org supports with
>> progressive enhancements?
>>
>>
>> ☆*PhistucK*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, folks–
>>>
>>> I don't know how this slipped by me for so long. This is lousy.
>>>
>>> At a bare minimum, the software we use should work in Blink, Webkit,
>>> Gecko, and Trident. And before deploying, we should test in each of those
>>> browsers; there are plenty of willing testers on this list, so we should
>>> make use of them.
>>>
>>> How are we going to address this? I can think of few different
>>> approaches:
>>> 1) ask Lea, Dabblet's creator, to implement support for at least IE11
>>> 2) try to fix Dabblet/codelet ourselves (any volunteers?)
>>> 3) look into replacing Dabblet with some other, more robust app like JS
>>> Bin (maybe we could contact Remy or someone on that project for help in
>>> doing that?)
>>>
>>> What do people think?
>>>
>>> Regards-
>>> -Doug
>>>
>>> On 8/5/14 12:04 PM, PhistucK wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Actually, the help page <http://code.webplatform.org/help/index.html>
>>>>
>>>> says only Chrome, Safari and Firefox are supported)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ☆*PhistucK*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:02 PM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Nothing freezes for me using Internet Explorer 11. The font-size
>>>>     feature in the settings does not change the font size, though (it
>>>>     does in Chrome).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ☆*PhistucK*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Renoir Boulanger <renoir@w3.org
>>>>     <mailto:renoir@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Hi Rob
>>>>
>>>>         Ill take a look
>>>>
>>>>         Laat time I updated it, it worked well on Mac Chrome/Firefox.
>>>>         Ill try with IE11 too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         --
>>>>         Renoir Boulanger | Developer operations engineer
>>>>         W3C | webplatform.org <http://webplatform.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         http://w3.org/people/#renoirb ✪ https://renoirboulanger.com ✪
>>>>         @renoirb
>>>>         ~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On August 4, 2014 10:31:05 PM EDT, Rob^_^
>>>>         <iecustomizer@hotmail.com <mailto:iecustomizer@hotmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Hi,
>>>>             Is anybody else having problems with code.webplatform.org
>>>>             <http://code.webplatform.org> or is it just me.
>>>>
>>>>             It turns my win7 IE11 into a brick.. (browser freezes all
>>>> tabs).
>>>>             Greetings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>