- From: David Kirstein <frozenice@frozenice.de>
- Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 14:02:02 +0200
- To: "'Lea Verou'" <lea@w3.org>
- Cc: "'Doug Schepers'" <schepers@w3.org>, "'Eliot Graff'" <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>, <public-webplatform@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <046301ce4d76$2edb0b70$8c912250$@frozenice.de>
Yep, something like that. :) I'm not deep into MW plugin programming and don't know what exactly is planned to remove the MW-generated TOC / what's possible with plugins.
Btw, is that client TOC script somewhere in our repos or such? I'd love to take a look at it.
-fro
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org]
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Mai 2013 13:34
An: David Kirstein
Cc: 'Doug Schepers'; 'Eliot Graff'; public-webplatform@w3.org
Betreff: Re: Table of contents added to pages, yay!
Well, we could check __NOTOC__ and set a no-toc class on the root element accordingly ;)
Lea Verou
W3C developer relations
http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿ http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
On May 10, 2013, at 12:57, David Kirstein wrote:
> Ah okay, didn't know that. Makes sense. :)
>
> Hmm, I just don't want to jeopardize anything, if we later decide to use the internal TOC somehow. I'm still in favor of __NOTOC__ to hide the TOC, but I don't think there are any additional indicators of whether this flag is set or not, in the source, if we remove the #toc table completely from the output, for every page. Maybe, when we're at it, we could modify MW in a way that such an info gets emitted and the script can then check for that.
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> -fro
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Mai 2013 11:18
> An: David Kirstein
> Cc: 'Doug Schepers'; 'Eliot Graff'; public-webplatform@w3.org
> Betreff: Re: Table of contents added to pages, yay!
>
> Hi David,
>
> Doug is actually looking to remove MW TOCs from our pages, since they make the page heavier. E.g. the border-radius TOC was 2.75KB, more than my script even! And it's on every page...
>
> Cheers,
> Lea
>
> Lea Verou
> W3C developer relations
> http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿ http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
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> On May 10, 2013, at 12:05, David Kirstein wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> the actual problem is, that the language bar has "clear: both;" and the client TOC has "float: right;". That will probably affect other pages, that have translations, too.
>>
>> Removing the clear from the language bar would fix the issue, that the content is pushed down, but that doesn't work for Main_Page because of the 9 content blocks (which also float). But as Lea said, we don't need a TOC for Main_Page. (I hope there aren't other pages, that use float-stuff in their content)
>>
>> Also, there are other divs / messages that have clear set, even MW internal ones like .mw-warning-with-logexcerpt (warnings box on preview if, for example, something is protected). Maybe that won't be an issue though, as we normally don't encounter these.
>>
>> The TOC also interferes with our flags: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/transition-timing-function
>> (but those might get restyled anyway?!)
>>
>> That's why I always try to avoid using float. :>
>>
>> And for the no TOC thing, MW has a magic word __NOTOC__ that hides the MW-generated TOC for a page. I suggest we use that to specify that we don't want a TOC for a specific page. The script would then check if the MW TOC is there (table with id and class "toc"), as #toc won't get emitted if __NOTOC__ is used.
>> [MW only adds #toc{display:none} but doesn't actually remove the TOC if a user has disabled TOC display in his preferences, which is the default in our install]
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>> But all in all, I like our new TOCs very much! :)
>>
>> -fro
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>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Mai 2013 02:55
>> An: Doug Schepers
>> Cc: Eliot Graff; public-webplatform@w3.org
>> Betreff: Re: Table of contents added to pages, yay!
>>
>> A no-toc class sounds great.
>>
>> Lea Verou
>> W3C developer relations
>> http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿ http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
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>> On May 10, 2013, at 03:37, Doug Schepers wrote:
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>>> Hi, Lea-
>>>
>>> For pages that don't need a TOC, like that one, how about we add a "no_toc" class somewhere in the page, which your script can search for? If it finds that class, it doesn't generate the TOC.
>>>
>>> Regards-
>>> -Doug
>>>
>>> On 5/9/13 8:32 PM, Eliot Graff wrote:
>>>> Probably don’t need a TOC for that type of page (my guess is there will
>>>> be more than one of these and they should be short enough not to warrant
>>>> it).
>>>>
>>>> Sleep well!
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:29 PM
>>>> *To:* Eliot Graff
>>>> *Cc:* public-webplatform@w3.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Table of contents added to pages, yay!
>>>>
>>>> Oh damn, that’s pretty serious. :( Thanks for spotting! Will get to it
>>>> first thing tomorrow (it's currently 3:30am here).
>>>>
>>>> Do we even need a TOC on that page?
>>>>
>>>> Lea Verou
>>>>
>>>> W3C developer relations
>>>>
>>>> http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 10, 2013, at 03:23, Eliot Graff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks wonderful, Lea.
>>>>
>>>> I think the main page has an issue with the TOC pushing the layout
>>>> down.http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for taking this on!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Eliot
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org]
>>>> *Sent:*Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:02 PM
>>>> *To:*public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>
>>>> *Subject:*Table of contents added to pages, yay!
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I recently came up with the idea of having a client-side generated
>>>> Table Of Contents (TOC). In coordination with Doug, I wrote a script
>>>> to generate it and deployed it to WPD. This has the benefit of being
>>>> smaller (1.5KB) than a server-side TOC and cachable and most
>>>> importantly, it solved the issues we had with the headings. Hope you
>>>> like it.
>>>>
>>>> We had to remove the width: 100%; from tables to avoid them being
>>>> pushed down by the TOC, so please keep an eye out for table
>>>> rendering issues.
>>>>
>>>> Here you can see an example:
>>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/border-radius
>>>>
>>>> This was a long outstanding bug, so it’s exciting to finally have
>>>> solved it!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Lea
>>>>
>>>> Lea Verou
>>>>
>>>> W3C developer relations
>>>>
>>>> http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
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