- From: David Kirstein <frozenice@frozenice.de>
- Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 14:02:02 +0200
- To: "'Lea Verou'" <lea@w3.org>
- Cc: "'Doug Schepers'" <schepers@w3.org>, "'Eliot Graff'" <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>, <public-webplatform@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <046301ce4d76$2edb0b70$8c912250$@frozenice.de>
Yep, something like that. :) I'm not deep into MW plugin programming and don't know what exactly is planned to remove the MW-generated TOC / what's possible with plugins. Btw, is that client TOC script somewhere in our repos or such? I'd love to take a look at it. -fro -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org] Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Mai 2013 13:34 An: David Kirstein Cc: 'Doug Schepers'; 'Eliot Graff'; public-webplatform@w3.org Betreff: Re: Table of contents added to pages, yay! Well, we could check __NOTOC__ and set a no-toc class on the root element accordingly ;) Lea Verou W3C developer relations http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿ http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou On May 10, 2013, at 12:57, David Kirstein wrote: > Ah okay, didn't know that. Makes sense. :) > > Hmm, I just don't want to jeopardize anything, if we later decide to use the internal TOC somehow. I'm still in favor of __NOTOC__ to hide the TOC, but I don't think there are any additional indicators of whether this flag is set or not, in the source, if we remove the #toc table completely from the output, for every page. Maybe, when we're at it, we could modify MW in a way that such an info gets emitted and the script can then check for that. > > -fro > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org] > Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Mai 2013 11:18 > An: David Kirstein > Cc: 'Doug Schepers'; 'Eliot Graff'; public-webplatform@w3.org > Betreff: Re: Table of contents added to pages, yay! > > Hi David, > > Doug is actually looking to remove MW TOCs from our pages, since they make the page heavier. E.g. the border-radius TOC was 2.75KB, more than my script even! And it's on every page... > > Cheers, > Lea > > Lea Verou > W3C developer relations > http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿ http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou > > > > > > > On May 10, 2013, at 12:05, David Kirstein wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> the actual problem is, that the language bar has "clear: both;" and the client TOC has "float: right;". That will probably affect other pages, that have translations, too. >> >> Removing the clear from the language bar would fix the issue, that the content is pushed down, but that doesn't work for Main_Page because of the 9 content blocks (which also float). But as Lea said, we don't need a TOC for Main_Page. (I hope there aren't other pages, that use float-stuff in their content) >> >> Also, there are other divs / messages that have clear set, even MW internal ones like .mw-warning-with-logexcerpt (warnings box on preview if, for example, something is protected). Maybe that won't be an issue though, as we normally don't encounter these. >> >> The TOC also interferes with our flags: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/transition-timing-function >> (but those might get restyled anyway?!) >> >> That's why I always try to avoid using float. :> >> >> And for the no TOC thing, MW has a magic word __NOTOC__ that hides the MW-generated TOC for a page. I suggest we use that to specify that we don't want a TOC for a specific page. The script would then check if the MW TOC is there (table with id and class "toc"), as #toc won't get emitted if __NOTOC__ is used. >> [MW only adds #toc{display:none} but doesn't actually remove the TOC if a user has disabled TOC display in his preferences, which is the default in our install] >> >> But all in all, I like our new TOCs very much! :) >> >> -fro >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org] >> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Mai 2013 02:55 >> An: Doug Schepers >> Cc: Eliot Graff; public-webplatform@w3.org >> Betreff: Re: Table of contents added to pages, yay! >> >> A no-toc class sounds great. >> >> Lea Verou >> W3C developer relations >> http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿ http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 10, 2013, at 03:37, Doug Schepers wrote: >> >>> Hi, Lea- >>> >>> For pages that don't need a TOC, like that one, how about we add a "no_toc" class somewhere in the page, which your script can search for? If it finds that class, it doesn't generate the TOC. >>> >>> Regards- >>> -Doug >>> >>> On 5/9/13 8:32 PM, Eliot Graff wrote: >>>> Probably don’t need a TOC for that type of page (my guess is there will >>>> be more than one of these and they should be short enough not to warrant >>>> it). >>>> >>>> Sleep well! >>>> >>>> *From:*Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:29 PM >>>> *To:* Eliot Graff >>>> *Cc:* public-webplatform@w3.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: Table of contents added to pages, yay! >>>> >>>> Oh damn, that’s pretty serious. :( Thanks for spotting! Will get to it >>>> first thing tomorrow (it's currently 3:30am here). >>>> >>>> Do we even need a TOC on that page? >>>> >>>> Lea Verou >>>> >>>> W3C developer relations >>>> >>>> http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 10, 2013, at 03:23, Eliot Graff wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Looks wonderful, Lea. >>>> >>>> I think the main page has an issue with the TOC pushing the layout >>>> down.http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page >>>> >>>> Thank you so much for taking this on!!!!!!! >>>> >>>> Eliot >>>> >>>> *From:*Lea Verou [mailto:lea@w3.org] >>>> *Sent:*Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:02 PM >>>> *To:*public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org> >>>> *Subject:*Table of contents added to pages, yay! >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I recently came up with the idea of having a client-side generated >>>> Table Of Contents (TOC). In coordination with Doug, I wrote a script >>>> to generate it and deployed it to WPD. This has the benefit of being >>>> smaller (1.5KB) than a server-side TOC and cachable and most >>>> importantly, it solved the issues we had with the headings. Hope you >>>> like it. >>>> >>>> We had to remove the width: 100%; from tables to avoid them being >>>> pushed down by the TOC, so please keep an eye out for table >>>> rendering issues. >>>> >>>> Here you can see an example: >>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/border-radius >>>> >>>> This was a long outstanding bug, so it’s exciting to finally have >>>> solved it! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Lea >>>> >>>> Lea Verou >>>> >>>> W3C developer relations >>>> >>>> http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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