Re: Project Management update.

This is great, Garbee. Thanks much. One question: I like that there's not too many "Projects" on the landing page. I see there's a Content Project. Is there a way to create a sub-project for the CSS Properties project?



From: Jonathan Garbee <<>>
Date: Friday, March 1, 2013 6:42 AM
To: Scott Rowe <<>>
Cc: "<>" <<>>
Subject: Re: Project Management update.
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Resent-Date: Friday, March 1, 2013 6:42 AM

I may or may not be around for the Telcon today. So here is the status of things as far as the new system goes.

I have a handful of projects configured (all are actually *made* but not all configured for use yet.) So, for what projects are configured, go ahead and file issues in the new system. If there is a project you need configured before I get to it, file an issue under the Project Management System project and I'll run through the configuration for you ASAP.

As far as the import of bugs from Bugzilla. I imported the Content section and part of another section or two. I had to delay this (along with a few other things) this week since I am doing data recovery for someone after a mistake uninstalling some software... That will be done later today or tomorrow. Then I have updates planned for another project on Sunday, so if that goes well then Monday I'll refocus on the bug imports. If not Monday then Tuesday for sure since the updates can only be done on Sunday or Monday for that project.

I'll try to make it to the telcon, but simply may not be available for it. If anyone needs anymore information on this then this thread is a great place to ask for information.


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Scott Rowe <<>> wrote:
Yes, notifications are working as designed for me, as well. Glad to hear CC'ing other users is coming!

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Jonathan Garbee <<>> wrote:
Since you are the reporter, the star in the left hand corner of the issue should be gold for you. For anyone else it is silver (or unlit, whatever.) If it is gold then you are signed up for alerts on issue updates. CC'ing people is not in our install, but I saw a few days ago it is added in the latest build. So the next time we update TBG we should be able to add other people to the CC list if needed.

As far as getting your alerts, you need to set it up in your account preferences. You can just go to  or go to your user menu in the upper-right hand corner and click on "your account." In there you will find a tab for the notification settings which you may adjust to your liking. If it actually is not working at all, then please let me know so I can look into a possible bug. It has worked for me though at least once.


P.S. This is going to be put in as a comment to PRMG-4 as well. So the notifications should be tested then for you (at least for comments) Scott.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Scott Rowe <<>> wrote:
Hi Jonathan,

Looking really nice here!

I've logged two Session bugs<> to start the ball rolling on the infrastructure project. Also, we need a way to "subscribe to" or be "cc'd on" bugs so that we receive e-mail notifications when there are changes. I've created this issue<> to cover that enhancement request.


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Jonathan Garbee <<>> wrote:
The Content component import is finished! You should now be able to use the Content project [1] within the new solution to keep track of things. Once again, if you have any issues using the new install or have any questions, you can post them in the Project Management System project [2] or get in touch with me any other way you can and I can help you out.

Some things are currently left in the component on Bugzilla. This is because they are going to be put into different projects which don't exist yet. So hang tight if you want to talk about one that is left sitting.



On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Eliot Graff <<>> wrote:

Thanks for the warning. ;-)

From: Jonathan Garbee [<>]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Project Management update.

In a few minutes I am going to begin importing the Content component bugs from Bugzilla over to the new system. The way imports are going to work is I will import and bring over the initial description of an issue. If there are any other comments, I am going to do my best to bring the content from them over as well (on some that may have a lot of conversation, we will see. But I think most of those are resolved now.) As the issues are ported over, I am going to close them as "RESOLVED" and "MOVED" while also linking over to the new issue in our project management system.

So, to anyone who is signed up for the bugzilla mailing list, get ready for inbox spamming! ;P


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Jonathan Garbee <<>> wrote:

I think that is discussion for another thread/time. Right now it really doesn't matter since our install doesn't work with OpenID.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:19 AM, PhistucK <<>> wrote:

Once MediaWiki supports OpenID, I see no reason to have any other login mechanism. We want to advocate open systems and secure practices, which is what OpenID is about, unless I am mistaken.


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jonathan Garbee <<>> wrote:

That has been planned. The module for it needs some patches before we can use it. That is one of the bugs being imported into the new system. ;)

It would only go one-way, so once we get support for having TBG talk to the MW user base, we wouldn't use the OpenID system anymore since those users wouldn't be in the MW DB. Unless, if people signed up through TBG it would go into that DB, but I would be interested to see how that goes seeing how TBG stores the OpenID data.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013<tel:2013> at 6:07 AM, PhistucK <<>> wrote:

And what about making MediaWiki have OpenID support?


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013<tel:2013> at 12:15 PM, Jonathan Garbee <<>> wrote:

The system uses its own user DB. There is no module for letting it work with a MediaWiki DB. It does have OpenID support, so this mitigates a bit of the frustrations with needing another account. Getting it to work with our current user DB is something to have done at some point.


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013<tel:2013> at 1:42 AM, PhistucK <<>> wrote:

How do I log in?

My<> username and password do not work. Is this intentional? Will this be fixed?

Thank you for working on this!


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013<tel:2013> at 12:35 AM, Jonathan Garbee <<>> wrote:

So, this is about to get inceptiony. Due to a bug in the current ACL setup for TBG, the "General" settings actually don't work as they should. :P So each project's permissions need to be manually set, which makes creating them more time consuming then I originally estimated. It won't be too bad though, just need to take them on one at a time compared to rushing through creating them all at once as initially planned.

Now, time for inception. I went ahead (completely without asking anyone) and setup a project for tracking issues with the bug genie install (yes, you can burn me at the stake for not asking, but let's do that after it is all configured.) It is public and located here ( .) The "prmg" in the URL is for "Project Management" and the actual title is "Project Management System." So, for any issues or questions about using the system, just post in there. There is one issue in particular currently which is about the import of the current projects located here ( .) It has the list I am going to import the current projects in. Please comment if you have any suggestions or problems with the import order.



On Tue, Feb 19, 2013<tel:2013> at 1:43 PM, Scott Rowe <<>> wrote:

Looking good, Garbee!


On Sat, Feb 16, 2013<tel:2013> at 4:19 PM, Jonathan Garbee <<>> wrote:

So, here we are. The Bug Genie is installed at ! It is currently empty, so don't go rushing over just yet. I'm finishing up a project that I have been caught up in for about a month now within the next two days. So, Tuesday or Wednesday will be when I begin configuring our TBG install.

I'm estimating that should take me about two work days to get done and test, perhaps three if I end up getting confused in the ACL (which is pretty easy to do.) After that I will begin importing the issues from the current Bugzilla repo into the new system. This will be done one component per day to try and not burn myself out in the move and to try and do some extra cleanup as well. As each component's move is completed I will update the list to know to start using TBG for those issues. As far as the order of the move, I will email out the order they will be done the day I start, needless to say Content and Infrastructure are on the top of my list.

Probably the biggest question, support/documentation for TBG. This, isn't a good answer I'm afraid. There is very little documentation on TBG's actual usage. So at first, it really is just ask me any questions you have via any method you can (coming to my house excluded, my dogs like to bark at new visitors and it drives me nuts.) I will work on documenting the actual usage of TBG first for us. Once that documentation is completed I will work on documenting administration aspects of usage.

If anyone has any specific questions about this process, please just let me know.

Thanks for your time,


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