- From: Peter Lubbers <peterlubbers@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:32:57 -0800
- To: Jacob Reiff <jacob+webplatform@jaacob.com>
- Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com>, Michael Del Tito <mdeltito@gmail.com>, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>, public-webplatform@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CACCmPHx-Q5YX47XABjz0D=XfEioBbeiRJHmxHWzu5F2duMTL_Q@mail.gmail.com>
+1 Code School does a great job. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Jacob Reiff <jacob+webplatform@jaacob.com>wrote: > I think that Envy Labs' Code School [1] courses are an excellent > real-world example of toeing the line between quirky/funny to increase > approachability, and "professional", in the sense that you could feel > comfortable using the material in an educational institution. > > [1] http://www.codeschool.com/courses > > -- > Jacob Reiff > jacob@jacobreiff.com > http://about.me/jacobreiff > > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Chris Mills wrote: > > > My take on this - professionalism is good. > > > > But making learning more enjoyable is also good. > > > > Learning technical subjects can be hard and laborious, and any way in > which you can make it more fun is a good thing. I would like us to move > forward from the stuffyness of academia, and set a new standard for > approachable learning style. > > > > Of course, fun and humour can be subjective, so this needs to be thought > about carefully. Is it funny to most people, of is it just offensive? Does > it help carry the learning, or does it just get in the way and annoy people. > > > > I love the bacon cat, but then again I love bacon. I am happy to defer > to the popular vote on this. > > > > Chris Mills > > Open standards evangelist and dev.opera.com editor, Opera Software > > Co-chair, web education community group, W3C > > Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" ( > http://my.opera.com/chrismills/blog/2012/07/12/practical-css3-my-book-is-finally-published > ) > > > > * Try Opera: http://www.opera.com > > * Learn about the latest open standards technologies and techniques: > http://dev.opera.com > > * Contribute to web education: http://www.w3.org/community/webed/ > > > > On 8 Nov 2012, at 15:19, Michael Del Tito <mdeltito@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I think that until this becomes a real problem, we should tread > lightly. Professionalism is subjective (to some degree). We could > explicitly ask that all images and content are "professional", but that > might not mean the same thing to everyone. This extends to all other > content as well, not just media. > >> > >> Example: http://mothereffingtextshadow.com/ is a great resource for > demoing text-shadow in an interactive manner. I would imagine that URL > would be "unprofessional" to some, especially educational institutions. So > should we ban that resource because of the URL? > >> > >> I'm not suggesting that bacon-cat be allowed, this is just something to > consider whenever traversing the slippery-slope of "content appropriateness" > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> > wrote: > >> One of the target audiences for using WPD is educational institutions. > They require a certain amount of professionalism in the content that they > either tell students to use or recommend they use. Most of us don't care > since we know it is just having fun. The problem is if teachers are to use > this in a classroom as a resource for students then media like that could > be a distraction. Creating a distraction could deter them from using or > recommending the site. > >> > >> We should try to aid usage of the site in as many environments as > possible. If this means something as simple as asking for professional > images be used, we should do it. > >> > >> -Garbee > >> > >> > >> On 10/31/2012 7:29 PM, Alex Komoroske wrote: > >>> The image is in use as a generic example of an image that text floats > around. There will likely be a lot of cases where a demo or example needs > to show something off about working with an image. In those cases I don't > think "relevancy" is necessary. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com> > wrote: > >>> Perhaps we owe it to our audience to keep images only if they are > RELEVANT as well as inoffensive, not obscene, etc. What's relevant about a > cat with a strip of bacon taped to it's ribs? Funny, maybe, but... > >>> +Scott > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> > wrote: > >>> So, it sound so far like we should go with, "As long as it isn't > obscene we can have a laugh." I'm down with that as long as others are. I > just saw that and professionalism jumped into my head straight away > compared to having fun. > >>> > >>> So at this point the main question would be, Does anyone simply > outright object to non-professional style images? > >>> > >>> -Garbee > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10/31/2012 6:37 PM, Alex Komoroske wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> > wrote: > >>>> I somehow ended up checking recent uploads and found this little > treat [1]. While funny, I am wondering if we > should have some terms for acceptable media that is uploaded to the > site? I think we should ask images be more professional than this. > >>>> > >>>> Whoa, at first glance I thought that was a cat with a recent surgical > wound (gross!). Other than that concern about this particular image, > however, pictures that are a bit irreverent don't personally bother me. > >>>> > >>>> On the one hand, we want to create a credible site that professionals > can trust. On the other, WPD is part of the > internet ecosystem--an ecosystem that has a certain kind of > irreverent humor. I'm personally fine with images that are irreverent as > long as they aren't over the top or potentially offensive. > >>>> > >>>> Thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> -Garbee > >>>> > >>>> [1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/File:box_baco.jpg > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > >
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