Re: IBM: Reuters: IBM working on payment system featuring Bitcoin's core technology from Joseph Potvin on 2015-03-15 (public-webpayments@w3.org from March 2015)

From: Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 05:17:19 -0400
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Chcouri <333222@gmail.com>, Web Payments CG <public-webpayments@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CAKcXiSp34KrGQ6T2unKz4vzvb_jHPu-FzsDfhVAkKz0Q1oRkkw@mail.gmail.com>
Can anyone find a link to that related Goldman Sachs report from a few days
ago?

http://www.coindesk.com/goldman-sachs-report-says-bitcoin-could-shape-future-of-finance/
"The report, published yesterday, is titled *The Future of Finance:
Redefining The Way We Pay in the Next Decade*. It's written by James
Schneider and SK Prasad Borra, payments analysts at the bank's research
division."

Lots of reporting about it, but it seems hard to track down.

Joseph Potvin

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On 15 March 2015 at 03:46, Daniel Chcouri <333222@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Subject: IBM: Reuters: IBM working on payment system featuring Bitcoin's
>> core technology
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>>  *Reuters: IBM working on payment system featuring Bitcoin's core
>> technology
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>>    - Reuters
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>>    reports IBM
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>>    is working on a digital cash/payment system that would rely on the
>>    blockchain
>>    <http://email.seekingalpha.com:80/track?type=click&mailingid=2369066&messageid=2900&databaseid=&serial=2900O2369066O1426363929051.0.17baf46bfdb5671ca0e7e807f87aa559&emailid=6428051&userid=6428051&extra=&&&3000&&&http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin#Block_chain>
>>    - the transaction ledger technology that underpins Bitcoin (COIN
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>>    OTCQB:BTCS
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>>    and other virtual currencies - to enable transactions for major currencies
>>    that don't require a bank or payment processor, thus lowering transaction
>>    costs.
>>    - Big Blue has reportedly "been in informal discussions about a
>>    blockchain-tied cash system with a number of central banks, including the
>>    U.S. Federal Reserve." If central banks approve the concept, IBM will
>>    "build the secure and scalable infrastructure for the project."
>>    - A source: "When somebody wants to transact in the system, instead
>>    of you trying to acquire a Bitcoin, you simply say, here are some U.S.
>>    dollars. It's sort of a Bitcoin but without the Bitcoin."
>>    - Bitcoin's ability to enable transactions with far lower fees than
>>    those charged by credit card processors (Visa, MasterCard, etc.) and
>>    traditional online payment platforms (e.g. PayPal) has led many big online
>>    merchants to support
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>>    the virtual currency. However, Bitcoin's tremendous volatility
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>>    - after peaking above $1,100 in late 2013, Bitcoin now trades below $300 -
>>    has scared off many would-be users.
>>    - In theory, IBM's solution would provide the transaction cost
>>    benefits of Bitcoin, while allowing consumers to rely on dollars, euros,
>>    yen, etc. The reported solution could be linked to a user's bank account
>>    via digital wallet software.
>>    - Also: Whereas Bitcoin is completely decentralized, central banks
>>    would serve as overseers for the IBM-backed currency system. "These coins
>>    will be part of the money supply," says Reuters' source. "It's the same
>>    money, just not a dollar bill with a serial number on it, but a token that
>>    sits on this blockchain."
>>
>>
> It's great that a big name like IBM are working on lowering the costs of
> transactions.  There's no reason why with modern technology the cost and
> speend of sending money should be greater than the cost and speed of
> sending an SMS.  If banking were invented today, it may not be.  This is an
> urgent imperative that can help prevent humanitarian crises caused by many
> people in extreme poverty without access to financial services.  As Bill
> Gates said about bitcoin, "It shows how cheap it can be"
>
> However, block chain technology is not a pre requisite for this.  A
> central mint would also work too.  I had a discussion with one of the CTO's
> of Goldman Sachs recently about bitcoin.  He was a bitcoin skeptic, and
> said to me that the current financial system could do everything that
> bitcoin could do, so why do we need it.  I replied that competition can
> potentially drive down costs.  At that point he had a lightbulb moment, and
> suddenly saw the value proposition, after which, he was in agreement block
> chain technology was a good thing.
>
> Related:
>
> http://i.imgur.com/EaSSN5f.jpg
>
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