Re: w3c payment processors

On 12 March 2015 at 12:56, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca> wrote:

> <tangential comment>
>
> RE: "I also have some bitcoin "testnet" coins that could be used to test
> settlement.  They are worthless coins but otherwise will all the same
> properties of btc."
>
> Spotted at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Testnet  "Testnet2 was just the
> first testnet reset with a different genesis block, because people were
> starting to trade testnet coins for real money."
>
> The difference between one and the other is, um...
>
> Here's a potentially useful benchmark for the "real" BTC:
> http://www.numbeo.com/common/motivation_and_methodology.jsp
>
> ... more on this coming soon, at a very generic level, here:
>
> https://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/wiki/Use_Cases_Task_Force#Choosing_the_Attributes_of_Price
> Drafting under way.
>
> </tangential comment>
>

Most people use testnet3


>
> Joseph Potvin
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 12 March 2015 at 05:21, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To clarify a bit more...
>>>
>>> On 03/06/2015 04:19 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>> > I would like to implement a payment processor in line with the w3c
>>> > payments spec
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that there is no such thing as a "W3C Payments Spec" right
>>> now. I know you know that Melvin, but others on the list might get the
>>> wrong idea.
>>>
>>> There are Web Payments /Community Group/ specifications, many of them
>>> incomplete or in need of updating, but with implementations.
>>>
>>> There are no Web Payments /Interest Group/ or /Working Group/
>>> specifications yet. We're working through the details now of use cases,
>>> roadmap, and Web Payments Architecture (Payment Agent). Expect First
>>> Public Working Drafts of those in the coming months.
>>>
>>> > I was wondering if anyone else is working on something similar
>>> > because I'd like to test payments from one processor to another, and
>>> > it doesnt seem clear how to do that right now.  Perhaps with some
>>> > running code the problem would be easier to break down.
>>>
>>> There is currently no mechanism to do cross-payment processor clearing.
>>> Payment Processors could use Ripple, centralized continuous clearing, or
>>> some other blockchain-like mechanism to clear payments between each
>>> other. Not having this spec'd right now is problematic, and we really do
>>> need to sort out the details here.
>>>
>>> > Just trying to establish tentatively if anyone may be willing to help
>>> > test in the short to medium term.
>>>
>>> +1, willing to test... but before we can do that, we need to settle on
>>> the protocol (which is a non-trivial undertaking).
>>>
>>
>> +1 to everything
>>
>> My hope was that through running code it might be easier to come to a
>> consensus.
>>
>> Perhaps we could have a wiki page for people that would like to test,
>> similar to :
>>
>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/tests/reports/ldp.html
>>
>> I think we may need a clearing system like ripple or ACH
>>
>> I also have some bitcoin "testnet" coins that could be used to test
>> settlement.  They are worthless coins but otherwise will all the same
>> properties of btc.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -- manu
>>>
>>> --
>>> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
>>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>>> blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments
>>> http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/
>>>
>>>
>>
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