Re: Statement on web-payments.org: "participates heavily in work at the IETF"

On 02/08/2014 11:29 AM, Harry Halpin wrote:
> In particular, the work is also not aligned with the WebCrypto API
> (as Manu rejects algorithm agility)

No, I have never said that. What I have said is this:

http://manu.sporny.org/2013/sm-vs-jose/#algorithm-agility

How is the work here not aligned w/ the WebCrypto API?

> or the JOSE specs (ditto I guess):

We go into detail of why the JOSE specs are a bad fit for the work here:

http://manu.sporny.org/2013/sm-vs-jose/

Would you like to see this group align w/ the JOSE specs? If so, could
you respond to the blog post above and provide counter-arguments?

> Would appreciate to now what's going on there before the Web
> Payments workshop. As the W3C Crypto API (and thus, to an extent
> JOSE) is being implemented across all major browsers, it would
> behoove Web Payments to be more involved and take in input.

We're waiting for the remaining bugs before Last Call to be resolved
before providing input:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2014Feb/0027.html

I'm confused as to what you're asking us to do. Are you saying we should
align more with WebCrypto API (I don't see how we don't). The JOSE work
(it's been explained why we don't). Or something else?

> Lastly, how many implementations of the Web Payments work exist?

For which part of it? We have roughly 10-14 specs floating out there
depending on how you count it. RDFa and JSON-LD was a part of the work
that this group was involved in, should we count those? Going down the list:

RDFa: 7 implementations, official web standard
JSON-LD: 8 implementations, official web standard
HTTP Signatures: 3 partial implementations
Web Commerce API: 2 partial implementations (MozPay, PaySwarm)
Web Payments/Commerce: 1 full implementation for payment processor
                       4 implementations for clients
                       a handful of apps
Secure Messaging: 3 partial implementations
Web Identity: 2 partial implementations
Crowdfunding / Price Benchmarking: 0 implementations

-- manu

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Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
blog: The Worlds First Web Payments Workshop
http://www.w3.org/2013/10/payments/

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