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Re: YouID for Android Released

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 17:07:40 +0200
Message-ID: <CAKaEYhKEP+-Ho+APUuK2ZwP-B7nZF0jj5xc4rA+qPk_Uy70HNQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, public-webid <public-webid@w3.org>, Peter Williams <home_pw@msn.com>
On 22 May 2014 14:55, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2014-05-22 13:03, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/14 12:55 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Statements like "take full control of your online (Web and Internet)
>>> Identity" may sound cool but has essentially no value since just about
>>> all service providers have their own "identity system" which you
>>> either accept or reject.  The latter means you won't be able to use
>>> their services.  Calling this "take full control" is IMO quite a stretch.
>>>
>>
>> You have full control of your (Web and Internet) Identity when the
>> following hold true:
>>
>> 1. You control the Identifiers that denote You
>> 2. You control the Identity Cards that Describe You
>> 3. You control the location of Identity Cards that Describe You
>> 4. You control the Signature used to verify You
>> 5. You control the control how Data is encoded for You
>> 6. You control the ACL and Access policies for accessing stuff created
>> by You
>> 6. You can achieve all of the above from any platform You choose.
>>
>>
> Of course!  What I'm (indirectly) saying is that this doesn't apply to
> - Government IDs
> - Enterprises using AD
> - Banks
> because in those cases you are *assigned* an identity and what is behind
> that is
> completely out of your control.  Your only option is not using the
> services.


But the web as a publishing platform allows you to annotate that ID however
you want.  Especially if all parties agree, at least in principle, that it
belongs to you.


>
>
>
>  Look, the architecture of the World Wide Web wasn't built for any
>> particular industry. It was built to empower You!
>>
>
> IMO, the web is just a network and can in similarity with most other
> technology be used in good and bad ways.
>
> I regard "the distributed social web" as a positive development but I
> also have severe problems with the proponents' lack of interest in
> traditional uses since this is how Microsoft managed achieving a ZERO
> market-share for their take on authentication in the consumer space.
> Pragmatism you know :-)
>
>
>
>  I notice you still don't send signed emails, why? I don't believe that
>> has anything to do with a particular industry, or does it? :-)
>>
>
> Well, I have actually been involved in this discussion since around Y2000
> but I don't want to go over this here...
>
> Anders
>
>
>>
>
>
Received on Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:08:13 UTC

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