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Re: YouID for Android Released

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 09:36:22 -0400
Message-ID: <537DFD56.9030400@openlinksw.com>
To: public-webid@w3.org, Peter Williams <home_pw@msn.com>
On 5/22/14 8:47 AM, Peter Williams wrote:
> The open web is now oligarchic. Any commercial news post has comments, 
> placed by some (military) pr flack. On tv, companies will now make 
> "older" folks a facebooky-thingy page, "with comments". Every phone 
> comes with an always on mic, location sensor
> . Etc etc
>
> Lets design security policies and components for the reality in which 
> we live.
>
> The idealism period is over.

Yes it is.

>
> What loosely coupled linked data trust models can do is fashion a new 
> anti culture (call it crypto subversion, if u must). Out of that, in 
> 20 years time there will be a swing back towards more true)personal 
> ideals.

Yes, but right now, there's nothing idealistic about how YouID makes use 
of existing standards without browser specificity i.e., the following 
artifacts are just fodder for native OS apps and handlers:

1. x.509
2. pkcs#12
3. TLS
4. HTTP
5. URIs
6. RDF
7. HTML
8. RDFa
9. Microdata
10. Turtle
11. JSON-LD .

Then you have a Wizard (for iOS and Android) based UX orchestrating a 
workflow that produces the following at conclusion:

1. pkcs#12 document -- every modern OS has a handler for this document 
format that triggers the native keystore interaction UX (it just works)
2. HTML+Microdata, HTML_RDFa, HTML+Turtle, HTML+JSON-LD, Turtle, JSON-LD 
documents -- eliminating distracting format wars of yore in RDF land
3. vCard document -- widely used format for contact details exchange, 
every OS has an app binding for processing vCard documents
4. QRcode.

Net effect is that you can then start:

1. signing emails
2. encrypting emails
3. provide a verifiable identifier to be used by others refer to you.

>
> Right now. We are in the era of finding out how to dump nsa 
> location-chip mission  for something less militaristic - like 
> eliminate the taxi system, as we know it.
>
> I'm hopeful.I saw json-ld placed quite prominently at last weeks 
> Microsoft teched show - and without any of the fratricidalbaggage. 
> Folks will be interested in trust modeling for people (vs "the governed").
>
> You did good.

Thanks!

>
> I signed email with pkcs7 in 1991, built by an Algerian recent phd 
> trying to avoid military service (which upset the local gchq types 
> overseeing us), and an Iranian woman doing the management (even more 
> upsetting to the overseers). The web is built on anti culture, 
> particularly in crypto.

Yep!

Kingsley
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Kingsley Idehen <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> Sent: ‎5/‎22/‎2014 4:03 AM
> To: public-webid@w3.org <mailto:public-webid@w3.org>; Peter Williams 
> <mailto:home_pw@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: YouID for Android Released
>
> On 5/22/14 12:55 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote:
> >
> > Statements like "take full control of your online (Web and Internet)
> > Identity" may sound cool but has essentially no value since just about
> > all service providers have their own "identity system" which you
> > either accept or reject.  The latter means you won't be able to use
> > their services.  Calling this "take full control" is IMO quite a 
> stretch.
>
> You have full control of your (Web and Internet) Identity when the
> following hold true:
>
> 1. You control the Identifiers that denote You
> 2. You control the Identity Cards that Describe You
> 3. You control the location of Identity Cards that Describe You
> 4. You control the Signature used to verify You
> 5. You control the control how Data is encoded for You
> 6. You control the ACL and Access policies for accessing stuff created
> by You
> 6. You can achieve all of the above from any platform You choose.
>
>
> Look, the architecture of the World Wide Web wasn't built for any
> particular industry. It was built to empower You!
>
> I notice you still don't send signed emails, why? I don't believe that
> has anything to do with a particular industry, or does it? :-)
>
> -- 
>
> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen
> Founder & CEO
> OpenLink Software
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