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Re: WebID Integration Usecases with Semantic Web

From: Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:25:46 +0000
To: Dileepa Jayakody <dileepajayakody@gmail.com>
CC: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, public-webid <public-webid@w3.org>
Message-ID: <762617C1-A681-4973-8137-1EFC4C0B8A57@bbc.co.uk>

On 28 Apr 2013, at 19:01, Dileepa Jayakody <dileepajayakody@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks a lot Melvin for your reply. 
> I will further read about WebID docs to gather more knowledge. 
> I took a look at myprofile project, created my own WebID : https://my-profile.eu/people/dileepa/card#me  :)
> 
> Another aspect I'm looking at is, how WebID differs from existing identity technologies like OpenID. Is the fundamental difference, the support for linked-data and the stateless nature of WebID? 

With WebID, the only thing you need a *server* to be able to do is serve static resources (it can do more, but that's all it HAS to do). The smarts are essentially a facet of the crypto itself (and the fact that a thing you can prove you control connects to another thing you prove you control). WebID is, in effect, as distributed and decentralised as the Web itself and has a very low barrier to entry.

With OpenID, you're creating an account on a service and pointing people at that (possibly in a round-about way).

M.

> 
> Thanks,
> Dileepa 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 28 April 2013 13:21, Dileepa Jayakody <dileepajayakody@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> My Name is Dileepa Jayakody, a Sri Lankan research student interested in semantic web, linked-data and digital identity concepts. I have been learning about WebID for past few days and I'm most interested about possibilities of WebID integration to provide a verified digital identity solution across multiple domains (SNS, email, blogs etc). 
> 
> I'm interested in applying for Google Summer of Code (GSoC) this year and there are 2 projects which were most interesting for me. Both are from Apache Stanbol project which suits my research interests on semantic web.
> 1. Using Semantic Concepts in Federated Social Web : STANBOL-1009
> 2. Entity Disambiguation for Stanbol : STANBOL-1037
> 
> Welcome, sounds great!
>  
> 
> For both use-cases I find WebID an excellent option. 
> For use-case-1, WebID can be used for federated social-web as it supports a user-profile with links to friend lists, photos etc, with ability to control access to such resources over social-graph. 
> For use-case-2 'Person' disambiguation can be tacked by developing a disambiguation algorithm by using WebID as a verified digital identity. 
>  
> Stanbol uses Apache Clerezza as a RDF engine, and AFAIK Clerezza supports WebID. However when I discussed with Stanbol guys on their dev-list I got to know the WebID support is currently disabled due to recent changes in WebID spec and changes in jaxrs architecture.
> 
> I am sure Henry Story can help with this, he's done quite a bit of work with Clerzza.  
>  
> 
> I would very much like to know your suggestions and ideas on integrating WebID for above use-cases. Further I would like your help in understanding the architecture of WebID and how I can integrate it in existing systems to provide a verified digital identity.
> 
> WebID is split into two architectural concepts.  One is Identity, which means using an HTTP URI to denote a Person.  The other is authentication, so that a server can verify that identity.  Currently there's one authentication spec which documents WebID over TLS, but more are possible.
> 
> A project you may also want to look at is :
> 
> http://myprofile-project.org/
>  
> 
> Looking forward to your ideas.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dileepa
> 
> 


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On 28 Apr 2013, at 19:01, Dileepa Jayakody <dileepajayakody@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks a lot Melvin for your reply. 
> I will further read about WebID docs to gather more knowledge. 
> I took a look at myprofile project, created my own WebID : https://my-profile.eu/people/dileepa/card#me  :)
> 
> Another aspect I'm looking at is, how WebID differs from existing identity technologies like OpenID. Is the fundamental difference, the support for linked-data and the stateless nature of WebID? 

With WebID, the only thing you need a *server* to be able to do is serve static resources (it can do more, but that's all it HAS to do). The smarts are essentially a facet of the crypto itself (and the fact that a thing you can prove you control connects to another thing you prove you control). WebID is, in effect, as distributed and decentralised as the Web itself and has a very low barrier to entry.

With OpenID, you're creating an account on a service and pointing people at that (possibly in a round-about way).

M.

> 
> Thanks,
> Dileepa 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 28 April 2013 13:21, Dileepa Jayakody <dileepajayakody@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> My Name is Dileepa Jayakody, a Sri Lankan research student interested in semantic web, linked-data and digital identity concepts. I have been learning about WebID for past few days and I'm most interested about possibilities of WebID integration to provide a verified digital identity solution across multiple domains (SNS, email, blogs etc). 
> 
> I'm interested in applying for Google Summer of Code (GSoC) this year and there are 2 projects which were most interesting for me. Both are from Apache Stanbol project which suits my research interests on semantic web.
> 1. Using Semantic Concepts in Federated Social Web : STANBOL-1009
> 2. Entity Disambiguation for Stanbol : STANBOL-1037
> 
> Welcome, sounds great!
>  
> 
> For both use-cases I find WebID an excellent option. 
> For use-case-1, WebID can be used for federated social-web as it supports a user-profile with links to friend lists, photos etc, with ability to control access to such resources over social-graph. 
> For use-case-2 'Person' disambiguation can be tacked by developing a disambiguation algorithm by using WebID as a verified digital identity. 
>  
> Stanbol uses Apache Clerezza as a RDF engine, and AFAIK Clerezza supports WebID. However when I discussed with Stanbol guys on their dev-list I got to know the WebID support is currently disabled due to recent changes in WebID spec and changes in jaxrs architecture.
> 
> I am sure Henry Story can help with this, he's done quite a bit of work with Clerzza.  
>  
> 
> I would very much like to know your suggestions and ideas on integrating WebID for above use-cases. Further I would like your help in understanding the architecture of WebID and how I can integrate it in existing systems to provide a verified digital identity.
> 
> WebID is split into two architectural concepts.  One is Identity, which means using an HTTP URI to denote a Person.  The other is authentication, so that a server can verify that identity.  Currently there's one authentication spec which documents WebID over TLS, but more are possible.
> 
> A project you may also want to look at is :
> 
> http://myprofile-project.org/
>  
> 
> Looking forward to your ideas.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dileepa
> 
> 


-- 
Mo McRoberts - Analyst - BBC Archive Development,
Zone 1.08, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA,
MC3 D4, Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ,
0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E




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