- From: Wendy Seltzer <wseltzer@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:53:19 -0400
- To: "public-webcrypto@w3.org" <public-webcrypto@w3.org>
Draft minutes: http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-crypto-minutes.html We're back to standard time and code (Monday 1900 UTC, 27978# (CRYPT)) next week. --Wendy - DRAFT - Web Cryptography Working Group Teleconference 04 Sep 2012 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Sep/0018.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-crypto-irc Attendees Present +33.6.13.23.aaaa, +1.650.214.aabb, virginie, +1.773.939.aacc, WSeltzer, ddahl, +1.408.540.aadd, markw, wtc, rsleevi, vgb, JimD, +1.512.257.aaee, karen, +1.512.257.aaff, asad, +1.510.387.aagg, Wendy, cjkula, +1.408.656.aahh, mitchz, +1.415.294.aaii, arunranga, Anthony_Nadalin, Mike_Jones Regrets Chair virginie Scribe karen Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]1- Welcome 2. [6]2- Draft API review 3. [7]3- Action status 4. [8]issue 16 and 20 5. [9]review actions 6. [10]open actions 7. [11]4- Group Life * [12]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 04 September 2012 <virginie> any volunteer for scribing ? Welcome <wseltzer> scribenick: karen_ <wseltzer> scribe: karen <virginie> [13]http://www.w3.org/2012/08/27-crypto-minutes.html [13] http://www.w3.org/2012/08/27-crypto-minutes.html Virginie: approve 8/27 minutes ... objective: review draft API ... review actions, not issues agenda approved Draft API review <virginie> [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Au g/0420.html [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Aug/0420.html Ryan: responded most of the feedbacks <virginie> draft is available [15]http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/WebCryptoAPI/ [15] http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/WebCryptoAPI/ <wseltzer> [rsleevi reviews some of the changes listed in [16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Au g/0420.html ] [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Aug/0420.html <markw> +1 Virginie: Thank you Ryan! <arunranga> Solid +1 +1 <JimD> +1 <asad> +1 Virginie: anyone frustrated? <vgb> +1 <rsleevi> [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Au g/0400.html [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Aug/0400.html <mitchz> + Mark: a used case that I provided last week is not included. Hope to be included. <mitchz> +1 Ryan: sent feedback in email. <rsleevi> Sorry, feedback was [18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Au g/0399.html [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Aug/0399.html Ryan: Didn't have chance to agree on text <wseltzer> virginie: any objection to including Netflix use case? <mitchz> +1 <wseltzer> (+1 = no objection) <virginie> +1 <wseltzer> (-1 if objection) <JimD> +1 <vgb> +1 <asad> +1 virginie: no objection. can proceed to include netflix use case. <wtc> I have a question about the purpose of use cases in the API draft, which is why I couldn't vote, Mark: can work on it today. can work with Ryan. wtc: purpose of the use case is not clear to me <mitchz> didn't hear the question <mitchz> Wan-Teh, your phone is breaking up a bit <vgb> W3C text on what FPWD means: [19]http://www.w3.org/2004/02/Process-20040205/tr.html#first-wd [19] http://www.w3.org/2004/02/Process-20040205/tr.html#first-wd <wseltzer> wtc: proposes face-to-face discussion among rsleevi, wtc, Netflix wtc: communications through email are inefficient. Suggest F2F meeting to clearify. ... does not need to wait for the w3c meeting Virginie: we can have conference call dedicated to certain subject <JimD> an action committee, of sorts... a conference call perhaps outside normal hours? Virginie: as long as you report to the group, no problem for f2f meeting Ryan: should we mention names? Virginie: we should typically not mention company names. Ryan: once in the use cases, the API needs to support it. <JimD> initial inclusion of use cases does not mean they'll be in the final version Ryan: we have open issues for API to workout. <JimD> likewise, there may be other use cases that may be added later Wendy: we are guided by the charter. It is good to have use cases even if the current API does not support yet. We are free to make further choices Mark: agree with Virginie and Wendy. ... use cases intending for API to support. If or not API supporting depends on what we work out. asad: thank editors ... comment on 5.4 <JimD> asad, well said asad: even current API does not support discover of keys, hope the API still intend to do Ryan: there are a few editorial changes to be made Wendy: public review process include making sure public url work out mitch: where we go for example code? ... do we decide spin out another document? Virginie: that's an action allocate to Asad <arunranga> FWIW a FPWD should have some sample code. asad: for sample code, Ryan has pointed out the sample code should be after api stablized virginie: can you live with without a sample code? mitch: may be. Ryan: similar as use cases, we may start wiki for sample code to address use cases ... I don't know we are at the point to put it in the api doc <ddahl> rsleevi: we can also write the code in the github and embed it into the wiki so it looks nice virginie: arun, do you want to comment? <rsleevi> Note: I was not advocating for FPWD that we do samples arun: it is useful to have some illustrative code ... generally it is a good idea to have a sample code in the draft virginie: if include sample code, we can delay for a week or sample code will come later ... any opinion? ... anyone can write sample code in one week? David: I can do it. virginie: it is more reasonable to delay one week to add sample code <JimD> +1 + <mitchz> +1 +1 <virginie> +1 <asad> +1 <selfissued> +1 <arunranga> +1 <ddahl> +1 <wseltzer> Proposal: FPWD next week, not this <vgb> +1 virginie: okay, we postpone one week <scribe> ACTION: David writes sample code [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-crypto-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Sorry, ambiguous username (more than one match) - David <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ddahl3, dmcgrew, drogers2, dhooley) <wseltzer> ACTION: ddahl3 to write some sample code [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-crypto-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Write some sample code [on David Dahl - due 2012-09-11]. virginie: we are done with the draft api 3- Action status – 5’ issue 16 and 20 <virginie> [22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Au g/0402.html [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Aug/0402.html <wseltzer> ISSUE-16 <wseltzer> ISSUE-16? <trackbot> ISSUE-16 -- Definition for Key Expiration -- raised <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/issues/16 [23] http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/issues/16 Ryan: propose to remove it and to have applications to handle it. <vgb> +1 <wseltzer> Proposal: close ISSUE 16 <rsleevi> +1 <wtc> +1 on removing startDate/endDate virginie: objection to close it? <ddahl> +1 <JimD> +1 <asad> +1 +1 <cjkula> +1 <virginie> +1 <mitchz> +1 <wseltzer> +1 <wseltzer> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-16 resolution: close issue 16 <wseltzer> ISSUE-20? <trackbot> ISSUE-20 -- What are the requirements and the possible technical solution(s) to control the storage of key and associated attributes -- raised <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/issues/20 [24] http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/issues/20 <rsleevi> [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Au g/0401.html - proposed text [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Aug/0401.html <rsleevi> (or lack of text) <wseltzer> Proposal: Close ISSUE-20 <rsleevi> +1 <wtc> +1. The spec shuld not overspecify how implementations store key attributes. <ddahl> +1 <vgb> +1 <JimD> +1 <cjkula> +1 <mitchz> +1 <wseltzer> +1 resolved: close issue 20 review actions <virginie> [26]http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/actions/pendingrevie w [26] http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/actions/pendingreview virginie: action 16 - delay after first public working draft <wseltzer> trackbot, close ISSUE-20 <trackbot> ISSUE-20 What are the requirements and the possible technical solution(s) to control the storage of key and associated attributes closed <wseltzer> trackbot, close ISSUE-16 <trackbot> ISSUE-16 Definition for Key Expiration closed virginie: action 22 - key import/export - need more discussions <wseltzer> trackbot, close ACTION-22 <trackbot> ACTION-22 And cjkula to describe key import/export functionality closed virginie: action 32 - issue 14 to be discussed open actions <virginie> [27]http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/actions/open [27] http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/actions/open UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: please indicate on the mailing list if you think the action should be closed 4- Group Life – 15’ UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: topic: group life <virginie> [28]http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/wiki/Gathering_public_comm ent_for_FPWD [28] http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/wiki/Gathering_public_comment_for_FPWD virginie: wiki - any member can edit ... need to decide where to send the public draft ... change the use of conf call. ... comments from members: too much emails to go through. May have 40 min conf call to discuss specific topics ryan: support real time communication ... concern is - participant may not fully express their concern due to missing calls or other reasons ... if we do this, we need solid scribers virginie: we need material to discuss before the conf call ... suggest to try wendy: rrsagent, pointer? gives timestamped minute virginie: next conf call talk about first public draft <virginie> thanks karen for scribing <wseltzer> trackbot, end teleconf Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: David writes sample code [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-crypto-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: ddahl3 to write some sample code [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-crypto-minutes.html#action02] [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [31]scribe.perl version 1.136 ([32]CVS log) $Date: 2012/09/04 20:49:38 $ [31] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [32] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ -- Wendy Seltzer -- wseltzer@w3.org +1.617.715.4883 (office) http://wendy.seltzer.org/ +1.617.863.0613 (mobile)
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