- From: Jim Manico <jim.manico@owasp.org>
- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 22:15:10 -1000
- To: "rsleevi@chromium.org" <rsleevi@chromium.org>
- Cc: Chris Palmer <palmer@google.com>, Brian Smith <brian@briansmith.org>, Chris Bentzel <cbentzel@chromium.org>, Monica Chew <mmc@mozilla.com>, "public-webappsec@w3.org" <public-webappsec@w3.org>, blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org>, security-dev <security-dev@chromium.org>, "dev-security@lists.mozilla.org" <dev-security@lists.mozilla.org>
Right. I'm just politely critiquing what I see as advice regarding HTTPS/TLS configuration that seems lacking. And yes I pivoted to asking about •preloaded• HSTS evangelism since I feel it makes the search engine question moot. Who cares if a search engine returns HTTP or HTTPS links if we have widespread adoption of preloaded HSTS sites that make the change in the client. That's where my thinking was; my apologies if I detailed the conversation. -- Jim Manico @Manicode (808) 652-3805 > On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Ryan Sleevi <rsleevi@chromium.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico@owasp.org> wrote: >>> Of the things that apply now, what sites can be doing is: >> 1) Ensuring HTTP redirects to HTTPS >> 2) Use canonical URLs - see >> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/139066?hl=en >> 3) Use HSTS, when available. >> >> I think that HTTP-redirect as a solution is "too late". The ••preloaded•• >> HTST headers initiative seems to be the right solution in order to avoid >> that initial HTTP request... > > I'm sorry it wasn't clearer what I was saying - but this is about > answering the question about "How do we get search engines to prefer > HTTPS". This is how. > > If your search engine is linking to HTTPS because it detected the > above three, then your link is to HTTPS, and thus you don't have that > window. > >> >> https://hstspreload.appspot.com/ >> >> I don't think preloaded HSTS is part of the HSTS standard. How could we >> raise adoption? > > It doesn't need to be.
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