- From: Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@apple.com>
- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:40:36 -0800
- To: Domenic Denicola <d@domenic.me>
- Cc: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@annevk.nl>, WebApps WG <public-webapps@w3.org>
> On Jan 12, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Domenic Denicola <d@domenic.me> wrote: > > From: Ryosuke Niwa [mailto:rniwa@apple.com] > >> In that case, we can either delay the instantiation of those unknown elements with "-" in their names until pending module loads are finished > > Could you explain this in a bit more detail? I'm hoping there's some brilliant solution hidden here that I haven't been able to find yet. There's no brilliant solution here. I'm suggesting to introduce something akin to sync script element. > For example, given > > <my-el></my-el> > <script> > window.theFirstChild = document.body.firstChild; > console.log(window.theFirstChild); > console.log(window.theFirstChild.method); > </script> > <script type="module" src="my-module.js"></script> > > > with my-module.js containing something like > > > document.registerElement("my-el", class MyEl extends HTMLElement { > constructor() { > super(); > console.log("constructed!"); > } > method() { } > }); > console.log(document.body.firstChild === window.theFirstChild); > console.log(document.body.method); > > > what happens, approximately? In this particular example, my-el will remain HTMLUnknownElement since it had already appeared when the script element to load the module is parsed. A more interesting example would be the one where the script element to load my-module.js appears before my-el. In that case, the instantiation of my-el is delayed until my-module.js is loaded. >> or go with option 2 > > There are a few classes of objections to option 2, approximately: > > A. It would spam the DOM with mutations (in particular spamming any mutation observers) > B. It would invalidate any references to the object (e.g. the `window.theFirstChild !== document.body.firstChild` problem), which is problematic if you were e.g. using those as keys in a map. > C. What happens to any changes you made to the element? (E.g. attributes, event listeners, expando properties, ...) > > I am not sure why A is a big deal, and C seems soluble (copy over most everything, maybe not expandos---probably just follow the behavior of cloneNode). B is the real problem though. > > One crazy idea for solving B is to make every DOM element (or at least, every one generated via parsing a hyphenated or is="" element) into a proxy whose target can switch from e.g. `new HTMLUnknownElement()` to `new MyEl()` after upgrading. Like WindowProxy, basically. I haven't explored this in much detail because proxies are scary. B is problematic only if authors are not responding to DOM mutations. If we feel that B is too problematic then we should go with option 1 with the aforementioned synchronous delay. - R. Niwa
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