- From: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
- Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:10 +0200
- To: "Jonas Sicking" <jonas@sicking.cc>, "Robin Berjon" <robin@w3.org>
- Cc: "Webapps WG" <public-webapps@w3.org>
Top-posting FTW! Smells a bit like declarative navigation controller to me. (No, I don't say that like it's a bad thing, actually). cheers On Tue, 07 May 2013 16:29:49 +0200, Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org> wrote: > On 06/05/2013 20:42 , Jonas Sicking wrote: >> The only things that implementations can do that JS can't is: >> * Implement new protocols. I definitely agree that we should specify a >> jar: or archive: protocol, but that's orthogonal to whether we need an >> API. > > Have you looked at just reusing JAR for this (given that you support it > in some form already)? I wonder how well it works. Off the top of my > head I see at least two issues: > > • Its manifest format has lots of useless stuff, and is missing some > things we would likely want (like MIME type mapping). > > • It requires its own URI scheme, which means that there is essentially > no transition strategy for content: you can only start using it when > everyone is (or you have to do UA detection). > > I wonder if we couldn't have a mechanism that would not require a > separate URI scheme. Just throwing this against the wall, might be daft: > > We add a new <link> relationship: bundle (archive is taken, bikeshed > later). The href points to the archive, and there can be as many as > needed. The resolved absolute URL for this is added to a list of bundles > (there is no requirement on when this gets fetched, UAs can do so > immediately or on first use depending on what they wish to optimise for). > > After that, whenever there is a fetch for a resource the URL of which is > a prefix match for this bundle the content is obtained from the bundle. > > This isn't very different from JAR but it does have the property of more > easily enabling a transition. To give an example, say that the page at > http://berjon.com/ contains: > > <link rel="bundle" href="bundle.wrap"> > > and > > <img src="bundle.wrap/img/dahut.png" alt="a dahut"> > > A UA supporting this would grab the bundle, then extract the image from > it. A UA not supporting this would do nothing with the link, but would > issue a request for /bundle.wrap/img/dahut.png. It is then fairly easy > on the server side to be able to detect that it's a wrapped resource and > serve it from inside the bundle (or whatever local convention it wants > to adopt that allows it to cater to both — in any case it's trivial). > > This means no URL scheme to be supported by everyone, no nested URL > scheme the way JAR does it (which is quite distasteful), no messing with > escaping ! in paths, etc. > > WDYT? > -- Charles McCathie Nevile - Consultant (web standards) CTO Office, Yandex chaals@yandex-team.ru Find more at http://yandex.com
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