- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:27:04 -0700
- To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
- Cc: Ojan Vafai <ojan@chromium.org>, Ms2ger <ms2ger@gmail.com>, Bronislav Klučka <Bronislav.Klucka@bauglir.com>, public-webapps@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CACQ=j+d=FkqstkxeWsgrwEQM2QpQOeJca+FJMYeq47ZO9kH3nw@mail.gmail.com>
DOM2 was not created for the purpose of reflecting the behavior in popular implementations. So it would be misleading to use this rationale. I would suggest the more neutral language I proposed above: "Although DOM Level 2 continues to be subject to Errata Management<http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#errata>, it is no longer being actively maintained. Content authors and implementers are encouraged to consider the use of newer formulations of the Document Object Model, including DOM4 <http://www.w3.org/TR/dom/>, which is currently in process for Advancing a Technical Report to Recommendation<http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#rec-advance> ." I believe this avoids any misreadings and has the intended effect of warning authors/implementers about the status of DOM2 and its newer formulation in progress. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc> wrote: > I think the point that is most important to me to capture is that DOM2 > no longer reflects the behavior in many browsers. > > So how about: > > DOM2 is no longer updated and doesn't in all cases reflect behavior in > popular implementations. DOM4 is the latest actively maintained and > updated version. <link to DOM4> > > / Jonas > > 2012/1/24 Ojan Vafai <ojan@chromium.org>: > > Can we just compromise on the language here? I don't think we'll find > > agreement on the proper way to do spec work. > > > > How about: "DOM2 is no longer updated. DOM4 is the latest actively > > maintained version. <link to DOM4>" > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote: > >> > >> I'm sorry, but for some, saying DOM2 (a REC) = DOM4 (a WIP), is the same > >> as saying DOM2 is a WIP. This is because the former can be read as > saying > >> that the normative content of DOM2 is now replaced with DOM4. > >> > >> I'm not sure what you mean by "[DOM2] is a work on which progress has > >> stopped". DOM2 is a REC, and is only subject to errata [1] and > rescinding > >> [2]. > >> > >> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#rec-modify > >> [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#rec-rescind > >> > >> I'm not sure where the proposed obsolescence message falls in terms of > [1] > >> or [2]. Perhaps you could clarify, since presumably the process document > >> will apply to any proposed change. > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Ms2ger <ms2ger@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 01/24/2012 08:33 PM, Glenn Adams wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The problem is that the proposal (as I understand it) is to insert > >>>> something like: > >>>> > >>>> "DOM2 (a REC) is obsolete. Use DOM4 (a work in progress)." > >>>> > >>>> This addition is tantamount (by the reading of some) to demoting the > >>>> status > >>>> of DOM2 to "a work in progress". > >>> > >>> > >>> Not at all; it's a work on which progress has stopped long ago. > >>> > >> > > >
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