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Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:17:53 -0500
Message-ID: <4D794001.9050303@nokia.com>
To: public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>, Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>
CC: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, "ext Klotz, Leigh" <Leigh.Klotz@Xerox.com>, Dimitri Glazkov <dglazkov@google.com>
All - Daniel Glazman responded to this subject on a Member-only list and 
he gave me permission to fwd his response to this list:

My personal take about it is that the HTML-based component model
proposed by Google is not desirable. It's an HTML-browser centric
solution that will require from non-HTML user agents to have knowledge
of the HTML namespace. Furthermore, it's in my opinion a rather
unbalanced proposal, trying to integrate things into HTML to "make
things simpler" but adding too much complexity to make them really

I'd rather stick to an XML-based solution or, to allow the search of
a compromise, establish the list of requirements first and then decide
on the format and dialect.


On Mar/9/2011 9:14 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote:
> Ian, Leigh, Dimitri, All,
> On March 11, the agenda of the so-called Hypertext Coordination Group 
> [HCG] will include XBL [XBL] to continue related discussions they had 
> during their Feb 11 call [Feb-11-Mins]. I wasn't present at that call 
> but based on those meeting minutes and what Leigh said last month 
> [Leigh], I think the gist of the March 11 discussion will revolve around:
> * What is the latest implementation status of the XBL2 CR [XBL2-CR] 
> and Hixie's September 2010 version [XBL-ED] (previously referred to as 
> "XBL2-cutdown")?
> * Which members of WebApps want to continue with the XML-based version 
> of XBL2 as codified in the XBL2 CR? If you are groupin this , what 
> firm commitments can you make to push the spec along the REC track? 
> Would you object to the Forms WG taking over this spec?
> * Which members of WebApps want to continue with the non-XML version 
> as Hixie created last September? If you are in this group, what firm 
> commitments can you make to push this version along the REC track 
> (especially implementation)?
> * Should the WG pursue Dimitri Glazkov's Component Model proposal 
> [Component]? If yes, who is willing to commit to work on that spec?
> Please send comments on the above as soon as possible (preferably 
> before 10:00am Boston time on March 11).
> -Art Barstow
> [XBL] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/XBL
> [HCG] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/
> [Feb-11-Mins] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-hypertext-cg/2011JanMar/0007.html
> [Leigh] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JanMar/0243.html
> [XBL2-CR] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/CR-xbl-20070316/
> [XBL2-ED] http://dev.w3.org/2006/xbl2/
> [Component] http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Component_Model_Use_Cases
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