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Re: [IndexedDB] Closing on bug 9903 (collations)

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:32:29 -0700
Message-ID: <BANLkTinXhY+VaT+_NMFKU3GC4k-dnv=Emw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Keean Schupke <keean@fry-it.com>
Cc: Pablo Castro <Pablo.Castro@microsoft.com>, "public-webapps@w3.org" <public-webapps@w3.org>
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Keean Schupke <keean@fry-it.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 29 April 2011, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Pablo Castro
>> <Pablo.Castro@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> We've had quite a bit of debate on this but I don't think we've reached closure. At this point I would be fine with either one of a) postpone to v2 and agree that for now we'll just do binary collation everywhere or b) the last form of the proposal sent around: extra "collation" argument (following BCP47 plus whatever the UA wants to allow) in createObjectStore/createIndex, plus a collation property to interrogate it; no way to change the collation of a store/index once created.
>>> Given that this turned out to be a more elaborate topic than I had originally expected and that it doesn't seem to have a lot of traction right now, my preference would be to postpone to v2. Thoughts? Once we make a call I'll make sure the spec reflects it.
>> I'd be fine with postponing it. However I don't think that the counter
>> proposals that we've received will work, so I don't think that there
>> is a reason to postpone.
>> / Jonas
> As long as we have a binary mode I am happy. If it is to support other
> collations, then all browsers must support the same set of options.
> The question then becomes what set of collation modes to standardise
> on? Allowing non standard collations will result in apps that will
> only run correctly on one browser, and that does not seem a good idea
> to me.

I agree that we will eventually want to standardize the set of allowed
collations. Similarly to how we'll want to standardize on one set of
charset encodings supported. However I don't think we, in this spec
community, have enough experience to come up with a good such set. So
it's something that I think we should postpone for now. As I
understand it there is work going on in this area in other groups, so
hopefully we can lean on that work eventually.

Of course, we still do need to have a standardized vocabulary for the
collations though.

/ Jonas
Received on Friday, 29 April 2011 19:33:26 UTC

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