- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:02:26 -0400
- To: public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
The draft minutes from the March 18 Widgets voice conference are available at the following and copied below: http://www.w3.org/2010/03/18-wam-minutes.html WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send them to the public-webapps mail list before April 1 (the next Widgets voice conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered Approved. -Regards, Art Barstow [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Widgets Voice Conference 18 Mar 2010 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0857.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/03/18-wam-irc Attendees Present Art, Marcos, Arve Regrets Robin, Frederick Chair Art Scribe Art Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Review and tweak agenda 2. [6]Announcements 3. [7]P&C spec: <span> element and dir attribute 4. [8]Widget Interface spec: status and next steps 5. [9]URI Scheme spec 6. [10]View Modes Media Feature spec 7. [11]AoB * [12]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB <scribe> Scribe: Art Date: 18 March 2010 Review and tweak agenda AB: the draft agenda was posted on March 17 ( [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/08 57.html ). I expect a relatively short meeting given Robin isn't here today (he is Chairing the DAP f2f meeting now). We will skip the the WARP topic. Any change requests for the agenda? [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0857.html Announcements AB: No call on March 25; next call is April 1. Any other short announcements? P&C spec: <span> element and dir attribute AB: Marcos, what's the status of the <span> and dir attribute changes you proposed ( [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/07 15.html )? [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0715.html MC: I am done with the normative changes ... still need to have examples checked ... Richard Ishida provided one example ... would be good to get review of the other examples ... But even if they are wrong, it wouldn't prevent publishing ... We need to talk to the Team about whether these changes will require us to go back to LC AB: agree we need to have that conversation ... seems like we should get some implementor feedback before proceeding ... that is on the new bidi text ... but not clear who can give us the feedback we need MC: yes, agree it would be good AB: I think we need to show the bidi test are "testable" MC: yes, think that's OK; need to show it can be implemented ... we could have some screen shots that show for example the name element with R2L text AB: I think Scott and Wookie is probably the closest we have to an Implementor <scribe> ACTION: barstow follow up with Scott re the <span> element and dir element and Wookie [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2010/03/18-wam-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-509 - Follow up with Scott re the <span> element and dir element and Wookie [on Arthur Barstow - due 2010-03-25]. Widget Interface spec: status and next steps AB: we haven't talked about the TWI spec ( [16]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/ ) [16] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/ MC: need to resolve the security issues around openURL method AB: perhaps we should create an issue MC: yes, that's good ISSUE: need to flesh out the security considerations for the openURL method in the Widget Interface spec <trackbot> Created ISSUE-116 - Need to flesh out the security considerations for the openURL method in the Widget Interface spec ; please complete additional details at [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/116/edit . [17] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/116/edit MC: not sure exactly what we want to say ... I think the TWI spec is 100% implementable ... at least for the API AB: the text for sec consids would be non-normative MC: need to get more feedback from Implementors ... Wookie hasn't implemented 100% (yet) ... BONDI has done some work but it doesn't implement the Widget interface ... need to do some followups re TWI implementation ... Cyril and GPAC is another Implementor AB: is there an open issue regarding the <span> and dir changes made to the P&C spec? MC: unicode has text re the markers and says not to include them ... some chars have directional indicators ... I haven't received much useful info on what to do; think we should just return the raw string AB: is that what is spec'ed now? MC: yes, just returns the raw string ... could also return string plus direction plus lang ... but that's a lot of work AB: my gut feel is we should stay with what we have defined and only change it if Implementors and/or Developers complain MC: agree URI Scheme spec AB: I haven't seen any new information about our scheme registration request. Robin needs to respond to Julian's comments ( [18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/07 13.html ) [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0713.html <scribe> ACTION: Robin respond to Julian's comment re widget: URI scheme registration ( [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/07 13.html ) [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2010/03/18-wam-minutes.html#action02] [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0713.html <trackbot> Created ACTION-510 - Respond to Julian's comment re widget: URI scheme registration ( [21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/07 13.html ) [on Robin Berjon - due 2010-03-25]. [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0713.html View Modes Media Feature spec AB: our request to the CSS WG for comments on the pre-LC version of the VMMF spec ( [22]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf ) resulted in several responses. ... comments from the WG ( [23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/08 04.html ) ... comments from Daniel Glazman ( [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/08 00.html ), his personal comments ... comments from Brad Kemper ( [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/08 03.html ) regarding the definitions of the modes ... without Robin here today, I'm reluctant to do a deep dive [22] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0804.html [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0800.html [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0803.html MC: fair enough; I haven't done a thorough review yet AB: Marcos raised a question about height and width attribute ( [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/08 47.html ) [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0847.html MC: yes, I need to discuss this with Robin ... P&C says that VMMF defines how width and height are used AB: ok, let's wait for Robin to respond to your comment ... my recommendation is that we continue discussions on the mail list MC: generally, I think the doc is looking pretty good AB: yes, I tend to agree ... it was particuarly good to see the CSS WG thinks it was a good idea ... I need to thank them and Daniel for sending comments ... any comments about the spec being more general than just widgets MC: not clear what that really means ... don't want to add a bunch of complexity AB: agree! MC: there is also a question about the relationship to CSSOM ... want to keep VMMF as simple as possible AB: so keep the functionality constrained such that additional functionality can be layered on top of it MC: need to see how it lines up with the VM-I spec ... should mention VMI spec to CSS WG Arve: the APIs are needed e.g. switching modes ... may want to change content upon mode switch AB: an action then to followup with Marcin on VM-I MC: should ask CSS WG now to review VM-I AB: was there a natural follow-up on one of the comments? MC: yes, think so AB: here is what I think it the latest VM-I spec: [27]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm-interfaces.src.html ... I don't know if it reflects Yael Aharon's comments [27] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm-interfaces.src.html MC: I'll reply to Daniel G with a pointer to VM-I spec ... and I'll CC AvK too AB: excellent and thanks for doing that! ... anything else on View Modes for today? MC: no AoB AB: is there anything else for today? Arve: re charter, what about high-resolution timers? ... Google created a proposal ... think the use case was debugging ... the question is: is this in scope for WebApps? AB: yes, here is the start of one thread: [28]http://www.w3.org/mid/802863260908121812i71940b50l851ad09c6ec7fe d9@mail.gmail.com ... Draft charter [29]http://www.w3.org/2010/webapps/charter/Overview.html ... next call is April 1 (no call on March 25). Meeting adjourned. [28] http://www.w3.org/mid/ 802863260908121812i71940b50l851ad09c6ec7fed9@mail.gmail.com [29] http://www.w3.org/2010/webapps/charter/Overview.html Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: barstow follow up with Scott re the <span> element and dir element and Wookie [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2010/03/18-wam-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Robin respond to Julian's comment re widget: URI scheme registration ( [31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/07 13.html ) [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2010/03/18-wam-minutes.html#action02] [31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010JanMar/0713.html [End of minutes]
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