- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:45:31 -0400
- To: public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
The draft minutes from the June 18 Widgets voice conference are
available at the following and copied below:
<http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-minutes.html>
WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send
them to the public-webapps mail list before 25 June 2009 (the next
Widgets voice conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered
Approved.
-Regards, Art Barstow
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Widgets Voice Conf
18 Jun 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009AprJun/1028.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-irc
Attendees
Present
Art, Josh, Marcin, AndyB, Benoit, Mike, David, Robin
Regrets
Marcos, Thomas, Frederick, AndySledd
Chair
Art
Scribe
Art
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Review and tweak agenda
2. [6]Announcements
3. [7]Comments from Dom Hazael-Massieux (12 June and 15 June)
4. [8]Comments from Francois Daoust (14 June)
5. [9]Comments from Opera (15 June; submitted by Marcos)
6. [10]Comments from Dom Hazael-Massieux (17 June)
7. [11]P+C LCWD feedback by Josh Soref
8. [12]Who should review the WARP spec?
9. [13]Who should review the Widget URI Scheme spec?
10. [14]AOB
* [15]Summary of Action Items
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<abraun> me/ nope I was aaaa
Review and tweak agenda
AB: I submitted the draft agenda on June 17
([16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1
028.html). Any change requests?
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009AprJun/1028.html).
Announcements
AB: On June 12 the W3C legal staff announced a Public call for prior
art on Widgets 1.0 Updates spec
([17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0
937.html). Please read this announcement and respond accordingly.
... also, today, the First Public Working Drafts of both Widgets
Access Requests Policy and Widgets URI Scheme will be published.
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009AprJun/0937.html).
<timeless_mbp> So, I need to send off a final set of comments
AB: last announcement from me is reminder June 19 is the deadline
for comments for the P&C LCWD
... any other announcements?
[ None ]
<scribe> ACTION: Barstow send reminder re Widgets Updates Call for
Prior Art to public-webapps [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-368 - Send reminder re Widgets Updates
Call for Prior Art to public-webapps [on Arthur Barstow - due
2009-06-25].
<abraun> me is using chrome for today IRC session
MS: I need to move the FPWD to the right place today
... and then get the Web Master to create the appropriate link
AB: what is the ETA, Mike?
MS: I can make the move during this call
... and then ping Web Master to make the link
AB: great; I appreciate that
MS: the DigSig CR annoncement must get done today and OK'ed by PLH;
should be no issues
AB: thanks for doing that Mike!
Comments from Dom Hazael-Massieux (12 June and 15 June)
AB: on June 12, Dom submitted comments (
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/09
36.html ). We won't cover discuss his Editorial comment on June 15 (
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/09
71.html ) since MC already fixed it.
... MC has not responded to this set of comments. Any feedback?
... ideally, responses to Dom should be sent to the mail list
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009AprJun/0936.html
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009AprJun/0971.html
Marcin: I reported the same probs against the ABNF
... and I think they are now fixed
AB: ok; good
... they appear to be non-substantive i.e. bugs that need to be
fixed
... any other feedback on Dom's June 12 comments?
[ None ]
Comments from Francois Daoust (14 June)
AB: On June 14, Francois submitted some new comments (
[21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/09
62.html ). There are three comments. Marcos has not responded to
this set of comments. Any feedback?
... comment #2 identifies a bug that needs to be fixed before
publishing a Candidate spec.
... comment #3 appears to be a suggestion for an optimization we
should consider
... any comments or feedback re Francois' comments?
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009AprJun/0962.html
[ None ]
Comments from Opera (15 June; submitted by Marcos)
AB: On June 15, Marcos submitted another set of comments from Opera
(
[22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/09
75.html ), these from Martin Nilsson. Marcos has not responded to
this set of comments. Any feedback?
... again, responding on public-webapps is encouraged
... these look like more bugs we need to fix before publishing a
Candidate.
[22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009AprJun/0975.html
<timeless_mbp> oh, as a note... i ended up w/ one comment which is
substantive
AB: any comments on Martin's email?
<timeless_mbp> it'll probably break us :(
Comments from Dom Hazael-Massieux (17 June)
AB: on June 17, Dom submitted some more comments (
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/10
21.html ). Marcos has not responded to this set of comments. Any
feedback?
... this set of comments is from an assertion extraction exercise
Dom did
... any comments on Dom's June 17 feedback?
... these appear to be Editorial and Bug Fixes
... any feedback on Dom's June 17 email?
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009AprJun/1021.html
[ None ]
P+C LCWD feedback by Josh Soref
JS: I've been discussing an issue with Marcos
... when a widget is requested, expect a single negotiation
... and can state which lang-based version I want
... and thus just get a single application i.e. widget
... don't want the UI to mix langs in the presentation
... its too easy for the author to make mistakes
... once en-us is decided, don't want fallbacks e.g. to fr
... must avoid a bunch of mixed strings
AB: I think we need Josh to send the UC and issues to the mail list
JS: I will send an email to the list that describes this issue
AB: any comments or feedback for Josh?
... without seeing the details, it appears Josh has identified at
least one bug
JS: I just sent some emails
AB: any other comments or questions about the P+C LCWD?
[ None ]
Who should review the WARP spec?
DR: how does this proceed with tests and P+C?
AB: we will start the test cases after we publish the CR
DR: Kai has done some work
AB: yes, we need to review that
DR: what about time scales?
AB: my expectation is that Candidate phase will last at least 3
months
... if anyone has reason to believe we can create a comprehensive
test suite in less time, I'd like to hear it
... any other questions about testing?
[ None ]
AB: I want to identify those groups we should explicitly ask for
comments re the WARP spec. Naturally, the proposed DAP community is
one target i.e. public-device-apis@w3.org. Are there any other
groups?
RB: BONDI?
AB: Robin, do you want me to explicitly ask BONDI for comments?
... give me the mail list address
DR: the request would go thru me
<darobin> RB: not necessarily, but they've asked for this feature
<darobin> RB: I can do it
<scribe> ACTION: Barstow ask David to ask BONDI to review the FPWD
of WARP spec [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-369 - Ask David to ask BONDI to review the
FPWD of WARP spec [on Arthur Barstow - due 2009-06-25].
AB: are there any other groups?
... public-webapps will of course be added
DR: does the DAP mail list include all of the Dec 2008 workshop
attendees?
AB: yes, I think that is true
DR: good; lots of diverse people then will see the annoucement
AB: I agree
... any other feedback?
[ None ]
<scribe> ACTION: Barstow send FPWD annoucement to DAP WG [recorded
in [25]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-370 - Send FPWD annoucement to DAP WG [on
Arthur Barstow - due 2009-06-25].
Who should review the Widget URI Scheme spec?
AB: I want to identify those groups we should explicitly ask for
comments re the Widget URI Scheme spec. Naturally, the TAG
(www-tag@w3.org) and public-pkg-uri-scheme@w3.org. Are there any
other groups?
... of course public-webapps will be annonced too
RB: I can talk to the TAG
AB: that's good to hear
RB: pk-uri may not be appropriate
AB: good point but I'd rather err on the side of over exposure
... any additional group?
[ None ]
AOB
AB: I don't have any discussion points
... does anyone?
... Meeting Ajourned
<scribe> ACTION: Barstow send FPWD announcement of URI Scheme spec
to TAG, PKG-URI and WebApps [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-371 - Send FPWD announcement of URI Scheme
spec to TAG, PKG-URI and WebApps [on Arthur Barstow - due
2009-06-25].
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Barstow ask David to ask BONDI to review the FPWD of
WARP spec [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Barstow send FPWD annoucement to DAP WG [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Barstow send FPWD announcement of URI Scheme spec to
TAG, PKG-URI and WebApps [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Barstow send reminder re Widgets Updates Call for
Prior Art to public-webapps [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-wam-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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