- From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
- Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:05:35 +0100
- To: "Web Applications Working Group WG" <public-webapps@w3.org>
- Cc: "public-svg-wg@w3.org" <public-svg-wg@w3.org>
Cc'ed to SVG as well, since people there use progress events. Please reply
to the Web Apps group (reply-to is set).
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:45:10 +0200, Web Applications Working Group Issue
Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote:
> ISSUE-78: HTML5 stalled and suspend progress events [Progress Events]
>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/78
>
> Raised by: Philip Jägenstedt
> On product: Progress Events
>
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#mediaevents
>
> The events in HTML 5 fired for the media elements (<video>+<audio>) are
> called ProgressEvents and are intended to eventually refer to the
> Progress Events spec.
>
> Currently the HTML5 draft specifies two events not covered by the
> Progress Events draft: stalled and suspend
We have previously discussed a stalled event, in the context of suggested
timing for producing progress events. We decided not to set a specific
timing, because the use cases vary a lot and so the appropriate timing of
progress events does too. So we could add the event directly to this spec,
as a convenience.
I think the suspend event would be useful and am inclined to add it.
Should there be an unsuspend event, or is it enough to just emit a new
progress event signifying taht something started again? And do others
think this is a useful addition or just extra work?
> These should be added to the draft, I suggest the following phrasing:
If we add these, I like the suggested phrasing.
> Name / Description / How often? / When?
>
> stalled / The operation is unexpectedly not progressing / zero or more /
> May be dispatched zero or more times after a loadstart event, before any
> error, abort or load event is dispatched
>
> suspend / The operation is temporarily suspended / zero or more / May be
> dispatched zero or more times after a loadstart event, before any error,
> abort or load event is dispatched
>
> Rationale:
>
> Stalled is used to signal that the download is for some reason not
> progressing, but the user agent has not yet given up and fired an error
> event. In HTML5 this happens when no data has been received for
> approximately 3 seconds.
>
> Suspend is used to signal that the user agent is deliberately pausing
> the download. In the case of audio/video, the user agent may initially
> download only a portion of the file and fetch the rest only when/if the
> user plays the audio/video to a point where it is needed.
cheers
Chaals
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