Re: [w3ctag/design-reviews] Partial freezing of the User-Agent string (#467)

Hi Yoav,

First and foremost, thank you for giving the opportunity to members of the community to engage in this discussion.

I'm very concerned regarding the reasoning behind this change: bits of entropy.

As a small ad network, we use ip and user agent data to combat [ad fraud](https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/bots/what-is-ad-fraud/). These same bits of entropy are used when we detect ad fraud. This is virtually impossible to do if all we are getting is a [rotating vpn-based ip address](https://fpn.firefox.com/) and "Chrome 74". At best, we have to wait for another request to get the rest of the UA data (significantly reducing our ad serving speed) or worst case, we will "exceed the user's privacy budget" and be denied this information altogether.

Who decides how "the user agent can make reasonable decisions about when to honor requests for detailed user agent hints"? There is absolutely no doubt that your own properties will be ranked high in a hypothetical "trust/privacy" rating. There is nothing stopping you or your successors from abusing this power against smaller players [like in the case with Yelp](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/technology/yelp-google-european-union-antitrust.html).

Just because your organization has hundreds of millions of logged in active users across your various web properties and devices (search, chrome, android, chrome os, youtube, gmail, pixel etc.), it is significantly easier to run ad fraud analysis and protect your own ad network as the rest of us bite the dust.

On the [github repo](https://github.com/WICG/ua-client-hints/) it states "Top-level sites a user visits frequently (or installs!) might get more granular data than cross-origin, nested sites, for example". What about smaller sites just starting out? With all the large players (that already have top-level sites a user visits frequently) remaining untouched, you are effectively crippling competition from smaller players.

Vast majority of the internet users simply don't care about this change and the handful that do, are probably underestimating the anti-trust issues that this change brings. One would have to be naive to think that there is absolutely no conflict of interest when a company that collects the most amount of data on earth is limiting what other, less frequently visited sites are allowed to see?

Reducing "bits of entropy" is simply not a good enough reason to proceed with the change. I adore chrome and personally use it every day, however, I'd like to point out to the community that this change is not in everyone's best interest.

TL;DR: We need the full os and browser version to **survive** as a small ad network. And more importantly, we need this data as part of every first http request, without being discriminated against for being a less frequently visited / smaller website.

Regards,
Andy

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