- From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
- Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:17:04 +0530
- To: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>
- Cc: "Chris Wilson" <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>, "Sunava Dutta" <sunavad@windows.microsoft.com>, "public-webapi@w3.org" <public-webapi@w3.org>, "Gideon Cohn" <gidco@windows.microsoft.com>, "Zhenbin Xu" <zhenbinx@windows.microsoft.com>, "Marc Silbey" <marcsil@windows.microsoft.com>, "Ahmed Kamel" <Ahmed.Kamel@microsoft.com>
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 06:21:18 +0530, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:22:59 +0530, Chris Wilson
>> <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2) In fact, on that note, we're interested to see the test suite be
>>> linked, normatively if necessary.
>>
>> Yes. I think this is a valuable piece of feedback. Currently W3C
>> process doesn't require test suites until you're trying to get out of
>> CR and I think it would be better to have them earlier.
>
> I agree that official test suites should be developed earlier than CR.
Noted.
> ... Fortunately, we have unofficial test suites as a starting point.
Yep.
> However, I think that per standard practice the test suite should not be
> considered normative, only the text of the spec.
This is the case traditionally for W3C which was once very test-shy and
spec-friendly. I think that the moves towards accepting tests as normative
is not necessarily a bad idea...
> In particular, conformance requirements that are not covered by a test
> must still be binding,
I agree with this
> and in case of conflict between the test suite and the spec, the spec
> must win.
I'm not so sure about this. Interpreting test results is often easier to
do unambiguously than interpreting spec language. Ultimately whether we
endorse the spec or a test, we have to carefully look at them both and do
our best to ensure they really do match...
> Of course, if the test suite and the spec ever disagree we will have to
> publish bug fixes to the test suite or errata to the spec, but in the
> meantime we need to be clear which is normative.
agreed.
cheers
Chaals
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