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Re: IG charter: modification suggestion

From: FUNAHASHI Yosuke <yfuna@tomo-digi.co.jp>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:42:32 +0900
Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org
Message-Id: <F9B45595-53CF-4AE9-A237-60532363C134@tomo-digi.co.jp>
To: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Hi Charles, Hi Kaz,

Thank you for your reply and help.

Your comments help those who are new to W3C (including me) to form the  
image of task forces and the W3C way to manage Interest Groups.

On managing the IG -- i.e. creating and maintaining the network of  
responsibility --, I would like to build our scaffold in the W3C way  
and merge my expertise in other standardization organization with it  
(when effective).

> Also I agree we're getting close to the *doing phase*.

So do I. :)


On 2010/10/01, at 19:54, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote:

> Hi Charles,
> I completely agree with you :)
> We don't have to define how to form which task forces in the charter
> but can form them later once the IG is launched.
> Also I agree we're getting close to the *doing phase*.
> Thanks,
> Kazuyuki
> On 09/30/2010 09:43 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:57:23 +0200, FUNAHASHI Yosuke
>> <yfuna@tomo-digi.co.jp> wrote:
>> Hi Yosuke,
>>> What do you think about creating task forces by matter of concern  
>>> and
>>> interest? (as needed)
>> I think doing this is essential to make progress.
>> The real question is how much we need to formally make a task  
>> force, and
>> how much it is a case of identifying the people who are working on a
>> particular topic on the home page (so we know who was *meant* to be  
>> at
>> the meetings or sending comments ;) ).
>> It isn't an exact science to get volunteers to do spadework. If a  
>> task
>> force is run wholly as part of the IG, I believe we can create them
>> without having it in the charter - the requirement is to set  
>> ourselves a
>> task, and name ourselves as the people responsible for it, then do  
>> it.
>>> In other words, I would like to discuss, hum... said a certain way,
>>> recruiting and human resources management on the IG. (of course,
>>> volunteers) ... But with no spadework, we will proceed very slowly.
>>> ... I would like to discuss the possibility for the task forces to  
>>> be
>>> responsible for the preparatory work regarding given topics. Do you
>>> think it will work?
>> There's a delicate balance between having lots of process (which  
>> can end
>> up meaning people who are not named contribute less than they might
>> because they think it is someone else's job) and not enough clarity
>> (which means they contribute less than they might because they are  
>> not
>> sure when and how they should be getting involved.
>> I think that managing this is really what the chairs and staff  
>> contact
>> do in the way that they run the group, interact with participants,  
>> and
>> publish information on the home page. If there were something magic I
>> knew of to add to the charter to help, I would propose it, but in my
>> experience it is more a matter of people working hard and  
>> efficiently,
>> and I don't know of any wording that makes that happen for a group  
>> like
>> this. Of course, if you have anything that you think can help, please
>> propose it.
>> Actually I think we are nearing the limits of what we can do by  
>> editing
>> the charter. This is good - it means we are getting ready to start  
>> the
>> *doing* phase (after charter review ...)
>> cheers
>> Chaals
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Received on Monday, 4 October 2010 01:43:23 UTC

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