RE: New Technique for 2.4.5, Supplementing link text with the title attribute

Hi, Becky.

Yes, I think we may be interpreting the technique differently (or maybe
we're interpreting the SC differently?), and we'll need to talk about it
on the call in a few minutes.

The problem is that I think the SC as currently worded allows "Click
here" links as well as multiple links with identical link text (screen
or alt) where the links actually go to different targets. I don't like
it at all, but so   far have been unable to persuade the Working Group.

I still haven't figured out what it means to say that the description of
the destination is "associated with the link" in a meaningful way--
i.e., both useful for users with disabilities and testable.

More on the call-- it's almost time.

JOhn



"Good design is accessible design." 
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University of Texas at Austin
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From: Becky Gibson [mailto:Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:17 am
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Subject: Re: New Technique for 2.4.5, Supplementing link text with the
title attribute

Hi, John,
It seems that we are interpreting the technique a bit differently.  In
my example 1 I am using the title to provide more clarification.  Your
tests, below assume that the title is only used when the link text is
the same 
for one or more links.   This allows "click here" with a title attribute
- 
is that really sufficient since it isn't well supported by AT? 
-becky

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Becky,

Sorry I didn't respond sooner. Thanks for this technique.

A couple of suggestions:

1. I think the test for determining when link text has to be
supplemented would be something like:
===Procedure===
#Check for any links with identical link text (including identical alt
text for graphical links)
#For each link identified in (1), check that the value of the href
attribute is unique
#For each link with identical link text (including alt text for
graphical links) and a unique href attribute, check that a title
attribute is present and that the title attribute describes the
destination of the link
===Expected result===
(3) Is true


2. I think the example and test about the link opening in a new window
can be deleted-- these are more appropriate for GL3.2 since they're
about changes of context.

I know the test I proposed above is long and that the items are hard to
read. Hopefully someone can come up with a shorter way to say those
things!

John
===Expected results===
"Good design is accessible design." 
John Slatin, Ph.D.
Director, Accessibility Institute
University of Texas at Austin
FAC 248C
1 University Station G9600
Austin, TX 78712
ph 512-495-4288, f 512-495-4524
email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu
web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility/

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