RE: programmatically determined

The way I make my accessible data available to AT is only available to
my customers and the AT partner.  I don't need anybody else to see it,
nor would it help the general public to know how to understand my data
because they don't have access to our technology anyway.


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	From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] 
	Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:20 AM
	To: Li, Alex; 'John M Slatin'; public-wcag-teama@w3.org
	Subject: RE: programmatically determined
	
	
	are you talking about DRM?   
	 
	 
	i dont understand your comment.  
	 
	 
	If the person has the book in front of them and can read it
visually - they should be able to programmatically access the user
interface componetnts.  
	 
	 
	not sure what you are saying. can you say again.  tell us what
your worry is.
	 
	thanks
	
	
	Gregg
	
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		From: Li, Alex [mailto:alex.li@sap.com] 
		Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:53 AM
		To: Gregg Vanderheiden; John M Slatin;
public-wcag-teama@w3.org
		Subject: RE: programmatically determined
		
		
		If the content is not free or publicly available, then
the data associated with the content accessibility for software use
would not need to be free and publicly available either.  If the content
is free and available to the public, then the data should be available
freely and publicly.  This is a show stopper if not addressed. -Alex


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			From: public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg
Vanderheiden
			Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:21 AM
			To: 'John M Slatin'; public-wcag-teama@w3.org
			Subject: RE: programmatically determined
			
			
			john  
			the  phrase "user-agent-supported"   is an
adjective along with publicly documented 
			 
			so if i rearranged the words as you suggest -
this and other sentences fall apart. 
			 
			this one becomes determined by software from
data provided in a publicly documented and manner  supported by
user-agents  
			 
			 
			 
			
			
			 
			
			Gregg
			
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			Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
			Director - Trace R & D Center 
			University of Wisconsin-Madison 
			The Player for my DSS sound file is at
http://tinyurl.com/dho6b <http://tinyurl.com/cmfd9> 
			 
			
			

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				From: public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of John M Slatin
				Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:35 AM
				To: Gregg Vanderheiden;
public-wcag-teama@w3.org
				Subject: RE: programmatically determined
				
				
				I hadn't remembered quite such
significant edits, but I think it's OK. I'd like to suggst a slight
editorial tweak for readability:
				 
				change "user agent supported manner" to
"manner supported by user agents" in the text of the definition.
				 
				Change the Note to read "Supported by
user agents means ..."
				 
				These do not affect the substance of
either the definition or the note. But "user agent supported"  is hard
to read and understand.

				 
				John

				
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				University of Texas at Austin
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				From: public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg
Vanderheiden
				Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:09 am
				To: public-wcag-teama@w3.org
				Subject: programmatically determined
				
				
				is this what we came up with for PD
today?
				 
				tried to pull it together from our
discussion
				 
				removed standard
				removed free
				 
				 
				programmatically determined 

				determined by software from data
provided in a publicly documented and user-agent supported manner. 

				Note: Publicly documented here means
that documents are available in a free and accessible manner to the
public, including availability on the Web. 

				Note: User-agent supported here means
that user agents and assisted technologies support the method for
extracting and presenting this information. One of the factors that
should be considered before adding a technology to a baseline would be
the availability of affordable user agents and assisted technologies
which support the technology.
				 
				 
				
				Gregg
				
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