- From: Eric Eggert <eric.eggert@outlinewebdesign.com>
- Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:06:24 +0100
- To: Michael Stenitzer <stenitzer@wienfluss.net>
- Cc: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>, EOWG <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>, BAD TF <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org>, Suzette Keith <S.Keith@mdx.ac.uk>
Hi! > for my understanding a horizontal navigation is not (neccessarily) a tabbed interface. > tabs do behave differently although they might look similar. I second this. A tabbed interface requires for me that there is no page reload. On BAD we have page reloads and thus a list of links. ~Eric > > just my 2 cents ;) > > regards, michael > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Shadi Abou-Zahra" <shadi@w3.org> >> To: "Suzette Keith" <S.Keith@mdx.ac.uk> >> Cc: "Eric Eggert" <w3c@yatil.de>, "EOWG" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>, "BAD TF" <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org> >> Sent: Monday, 9 January, 2012 1:58:57 PM >> Subject: Re: Need help with comment #10 (was Re: disposition of BAD comments) >> >> Purely technically I guess that structures such as WAI-ARIA tabs and >> HTML5 menus offer better semantics than lists to represent such menu >> components. Firefox seems to support these but currently support on >> other browsers (and AT) is lagging behind and both are current draft >> specifications, making it effectively not viable for many websites. >> >> I guess that currently you would need to either build in the work >> around >> that Eric described or choose not to support a non-complaint browser >> as >> we will probably need to do with BAD. >> >> Best, >> Shadi >> >> >> On 9.1.2012 13:05, Suzette Keith wrote: >> > Hi >> > I am only a beginner and easily confused when it comes to creating >> > a >> > website - but the beginner texts all use 'ul' then 'li' to create >> > menus. >> > Does Firefox offer a better way to create a menu (list) with >> > bullets >> > removed? >> > Suzette >> > >> > >> > >> > On 09/01/2012 11:05, "Eric Eggert"<w3c@yatil.de> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Shadi, >> >> >> >>>> Comment #10: (3) list items not exposed properly in Firefox [5] >> >>>> Resolution: pending - looking into it >> >>>> Rationale: cannot replicate the issue on my setup >> >>>> [5]<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2011OctDec/0105> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I'm not able to replicate this issue or find online resources >> >>> about this >> >>> apparent bug. It could be because the list structure >> >>> contains<div>, >> >>> <span>, >> >>> and plain text nodes rather than only<li> elements. >> >>> >> >>> Does anyone have more information about this issue? >> >> >> >> This is a behavior that Firefox shows when the<li> has no visible >> >> bullet points. As I checked back with Marco Zehe of Mozilla it is >> >> a >> >> desired behavior, as they claim that it isn¹t a list if there are >> >> no >> >> bullets. I don¹t think that¹s a particularly good decision and I >> >> wonder if it is against UAAG, being not familiar with that spec my >> >> self. >> >> >> >> There is nothing we can do at this point, besides hacking in >> >> single-pixel-gifs as bullet points, but I think that would break >> >> other >> >> things. >> >> >> >> ~Eric >> >> >> >> -- >> >> outline - we web. >> >> >> >> Sandra Kallmeyer und Eric Eggert GbR >> >> Hauptstraße 101105 >> >> 45219 Essen-Kettwig >> >> GERMANY >> >> >> >> USt-IdNr.: DE275406670 >> >> >> >> info@outlinewebdesign.com >> >> www.outlinewebdesign.com >> >> >> >> Spielregeln >> >> http://www.outlinewebdesign.com/spielregeln.php >> >> >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ >> Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office >> Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG) >> Research and Development Working Group (RDWG) >> >> > > -- > Michael Stenitzer | WIENFLUSS information.design.solutions KG > t: +43 (650) 9358770 | proschkogasse 1/5 | 1060 wien > f: +43 (1) 23680199 | www.wienfluss.net > -- outline - we web. Sandra Kallmeyer und Eric Eggert GbR Hauptstraße 101–105 45219 Essen-Kettwig GERMANY USt-IdNr.: DE275406670 phone +49 (0)2054 1255740 mobile +49 (0)151 41932204 info@outlinewebdesign.com www.outlinewebdesign.com Spielregeln http://www.outlinewebdesign.com/spielregeln.php
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