- From: Michael Stenitzer <stenitzer@wienfluss.net>
- Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:28:54 +0100 (CET)
- To: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
- Cc: Eric Eggert <w3c@yatil.de>, EOWG <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>, BAD TF <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org>, Suzette Keith <S.Keith@mdx.ac.uk>
for my understanding a horizontal navigation is not (neccessarily) a tabbed interface. tabs do behave differently although they might look similar. just my 2 cents ;) regards, michael ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shadi Abou-Zahra" <shadi@w3.org> > To: "Suzette Keith" <S.Keith@mdx.ac.uk> > Cc: "Eric Eggert" <w3c@yatil.de>, "EOWG" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>, "BAD TF" <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org> > Sent: Monday, 9 January, 2012 1:58:57 PM > Subject: Re: Need help with comment #10 (was Re: disposition of BAD comments) > > Purely technically I guess that structures such as WAI-ARIA tabs and > HTML5 menus offer better semantics than lists to represent such menu > components. Firefox seems to support these but currently support on > other browsers (and AT) is lagging behind and both are current draft > specifications, making it effectively not viable for many websites. > > I guess that currently you would need to either build in the work > around > that Eric described or choose not to support a non-complaint browser > as > we will probably need to do with BAD. > > Best, > Shadi > > > On 9.1.2012 13:05, Suzette Keith wrote: > > Hi > > I am only a beginner and easily confused when it comes to creating > > a > > website - but the beginner texts all use 'ul' then 'li' to create > > menus. > > Does Firefox offer a better way to create a menu (list) with > > bullets > > removed? > > Suzette > > > > > > > > On 09/01/2012 11:05, "Eric Eggert"<w3c@yatil.de> wrote: > > > >> Hi Shadi, > >> > >>>> Comment #10: (3) list items not exposed properly in Firefox [5] > >>>> Resolution: pending - looking into it > >>>> Rationale: cannot replicate the issue on my setup > >>>> [5]<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2011OctDec/0105> > >>> > >>> > >>> I'm not able to replicate this issue or find online resources > >>> about this > >>> apparent bug. It could be because the list structure > >>> contains<div>, > >>> <span>, > >>> and plain text nodes rather than only<li> elements. > >>> > >>> Does anyone have more information about this issue? > >> > >> This is a behavior that Firefox shows when the<li> has no visible > >> bullet points. As I checked back with Marco Zehe of Mozilla it is > >> a > >> desired behavior, as they claim that it isn¹t a list if there are > >> no > >> bullets. I don¹t think that¹s a particularly good decision and I > >> wonder if it is against UAAG, being not familiar with that spec my > >> self. > >> > >> There is nothing we can do at this point, besides hacking in > >> single-pixel-gifs as bullet points, but I think that would break > >> other > >> things. > >> > >> ~Eric > >> > >> -- > >> outline - we web. > >> > >> Sandra Kallmeyer und Eric Eggert GbR > >> Hauptstraße 101105 > >> 45219 Essen-Kettwig > >> GERMANY > >> > >> USt-IdNr.: DE275406670 > >> > >> info@outlinewebdesign.com > >> www.outlinewebdesign.com > >> > >> Spielregeln > >> http://www.outlinewebdesign.com/spielregeln.php > >> > > > > > > -- > Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ > Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office > Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG) > Research and Development Working Group (RDWG) > > -- Michael Stenitzer | WIENFLUSS information.design.solutions KG t: +43 (650) 9358770 | proschkogasse 1/5 | 1060 wien f: +43 (1) 23680199 | www.wienfluss.net
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