Re: DRAFT-1 agenda for the Process Call Wednesday 23rd Oct 7am PDT, REPLY APPRECIATED

+Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>  since he's mentioned.

I will make the call if it happens.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:13 AM David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:

> I am in Korea, and Philippe is in China. It’ll be 11pm for me. I hope I
> make it.
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> **** If know you can and would make it, or conversely can’t and won’t,
> please reply and confirm or regret; we can asses then whether we’ll have a
> productive call. Thanks. ****
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> Webex at <
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-w3process/2019May/0000.html>
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> IRC is #w3process
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> Log of prior meeting at <
> https://www.w3.org/2019/09/11-w3process-minutes.html>
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> Usual meeting time: SECOND and FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 7AM PACIFIC
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> 1) Assign scribe, etc.,
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> 2) Registries and Living Standards.
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> 2.1) Tantek raised a Registry issue at TPAC, which I hd previously raised
> and then dropped in the interests of making progress. he has not (yet)
> filed it as an issue. Update from the chair (me).
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> 2.2) Update on where we are with Living Standards? PLH/Jeff/Elika/someone?
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> 3) Editorials, and (Other) Pull Requests and Issues tagged Agenda+
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> 3.1) Pull Requests: <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3AAgenda%2B
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> Make it clear than any decision can be objected to <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/299>
> [Registries handled above]
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> 3.2) Issues:            <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AAgenda%2B+
> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AAgenda%2B+>
> >
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> New, need to decide how to proceed: add references to "Open Stand"
> principles #325 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/325>
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> 3.3) Editorials: we still need to make progress on the meaning of
> Discontinued, and clearer wording for transitions to superseded/obsolete.
> They are not tagged agenda+
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> What does the document status "discontinued" mean? #262 <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/262>
>   — we discussed before
> provide clearer/common wording for transitions to Obsolete/Superseded
> status #141<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/141>
>  — Chris Wilson update?
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> 4) Review of 2020 milestone; who has the action, where are we going,
> what’s next? Do we expect/hope/intend to finish these in P2020 or should we
> start slipping them?
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> 4.1) assigned to someone, please be prepared to give any needed updates
> (briefly), or if you are blocked by something, explain what it is so we can
> unblock you:
> <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+assignee%3A*
> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+assignee%3A*>
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> I think we need to decide what the plan is on:
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> Substantive changes undefined for Charter and Process reviews <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/28>
> Define charter review process to require addressing comments as in CR
> transitions <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/182>
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> 4.2) unassigned; none. <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+no%3Aassignee+
> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+no%3Aassignee+>
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> 5) new issues and updates.
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> 5.1) new since prior check: <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2019-03-13+
> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2019-03-13+>
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> There are many; I don’t intend to list them here.
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> If we reduce to those not either (a) evergreen or (b) director-free, and
> not (c) Agenda+, we have 9:
>         <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2019-03-13+-label%3AEvergreen+-label%3AAgenda%2B+-label%3Adirector-free+
> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2019-03-13+-label%3AEvergreen+-label%3AAgenda%2B+-label%3Adirector-free+>
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> It’s time to triage them. I’d like to draw particular attention to:
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> Recording of meetings <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/334>
> TAG and AB should be able to formally review charters <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/328>
> Community and Business Groups <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/326
> >
> Do we need a lighter-weight process for superseding when it's "obvious”? <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/324>
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> I’d like to encourage people to review them, and tag Agenda+ any that we
> could progress, or dispose of. Please?
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> 5.2) updated but not any of:
>         Process2020 milestone
>         nor Evergreen
>         nor director-free
>         nor Agenda+
>         not assigned to the AB (Needs AB Feedback)
> <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+updated%3A%3E2019-05-22+-label%3A%22Needs+AB+Feedback%22+-label%3AAgenda%2B+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+-label%3AEvergreen+-label%3Adirector-free+
> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+updated%3A%3E2019-05-22+-label%3A%22Needs+AB+Feedback%22+-label%3AAgenda%2B+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+-label%3AEvergreen+-label%3Adirector-free+>
> >
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> I’d like to encourage people to review them, and tag Agenda+ any that we
> could progress, or dispose of. Please?
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> 6) If we have time, Assigned, but not on the 2020 milestone (cherry-pick,
> if people have updates or questions for us):
>
> <
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+assignee%3A*+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22
> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+assignee%3A*+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22>
> >
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> Some of these date from 2017. Surely time to clean out?
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> The usual closers:
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> 7) Next meeting. formally Wed Sept 25th, week after TPAC. I assume we’ll
> meet and de-brief.
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> 8) Any other business.
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> David Singer
> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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