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Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy]

From: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 09:10:56 -0400
Message-ID: <540DAAE0.8020306@w3.org>
To: Revising W3C Process Community Group <public-w3process@w3.org>
The considerations that the Director follows in deciding normative 
references is found in [1]

[1] http://www.w3.org/2013/09/normative-references

This document was reviewed by the W3C Advisory Committee a year ago.

Other comments in-line.

Jeff

On 9/8/2014 8:18 AM, Revising W3C Process Community Group Issue Tracker 
wrote:
> w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy]

I disagree with Art.  I think it would be a bad policy to blacklist any 
particular organization.

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> http://www.w3.org/community/w3process/track/issues/124
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> Raised by: Arthur Barstow
> On product: Normative Reference Policy
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> If a group has consensus that an "external reference" (such as a WHATWG spec) meets the group's requirements, then with respect to publishing a Technical, such a reference should be permitted. However, based on my conversations with Consortium staff last week, the Director will NOT permit a Proposed Recommendation to include a normative reference to a WHATWG spec.

This statement is incorrect.  The considerations that the Director uses 
is document [1] above.   If there is a normative reference made to a 
WHATWG document, it would not be impossible to use that normative 
reference as long as the document fulfilled conditions in [1].

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> Although I disagree with the Director's position here (because I think the processes should defer to the opinion of the group and implementors), the Issue is the Normative Reference Policy [NRP] should explicitly identify those external groups the Director has explicitly blacklisted. As such, and to help avoid confusion, set expectations, etc., NRP should be updated to explicitly blacklist WHATWG.
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