RE: w3process-ISSUE-104 (AB-transparency): AB should conduct all non-sensitive e-mail on a Public or Member list [Advisory Board]

> I donít think we need to bikeshed this

A good point, and I probably overthought the matter in my reply.  I agree that having most AB discussions be done on a member-only list would be fine, as well as continuing to have the actual process document discussions in public.  

Nevertheless, there is a certain amount of, let's call it, "tough love" dispensed by the AB to the management (and vice versa) that I don't want to become fodder for W3CMemes. Likewise AB members are in the interesting position of being sponsored by their employers but representing the larger community rather than their employers in AB deliberations, and that can be easier in a confidential environment.

So I'd support a proposal to create a more open forum for AB discussions, but allow AB'ers lots of discretion to use the closed list as they see appropriate... but with self-policing by other AB members to ensure the confidential discussions really do serve a purpose.
From: David Singer <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:37 PM
To: Nottingham, Mark
Cc: Jeff Jaffe; Michael Champion (MS OPEN TECH); Revising W3C Process Community Group
Subject: Re: w3process-ISSUE-104 (AB-transparency): AB should conduct all non-sensitive e-mail on a Public or Member list [Advisory Board]

I have no problem with the AB conducting most of its business in the open, but the AB is about governance, not technical specs or architecture.  I donít think we need to bikeshed this, but just adopt as a matter of practice that most matters are discussed in public.

On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:09 , Nottingham, Mark <> wrote:

> On 9 Jul 2014, at 11:29 am, Jeff Jaffe <> wrote:
>> I'd like to understand better what this means.  Everyone can improve and
>> we are no exception.  But I don't understand what you mean when you say
>> that we are out of touch with the "real" web.  And if the statement is
>> true that sounds like a deeper problem than just having the AB work in
>> the open.  In your view, what would put us in better touch with the
>> "real" web?
> Didn't say we are -- just that there's a perception out there.
> Cheers,
> --
> Mark Nottingham

David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.

Received on Wednesday, 9 July 2014 07:00:01 UTC