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Re: Invited expert and CG Contributor agreements

From: <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 18:21:48 +0300
To: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>, Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@gmail.com>, Wayne Carr <wayne.carr@linux.intel.com>, "public-w3process@w3.org" <public-w3process@w3.org>
Message-Id: <3581419002508@webcorp01f.yandex-team.ru>
19.12.2014, 16:42, "Jeff Jaffe" <jeff@w3.org>:
> On 12/19/2014 8:00 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:
>> šSince it seems like any restriction on derivative work upon an IE's
>> štermination could result in reduced (perhaps eliminated) employment
>> šopportunities,
>
> I'd be interested in understanding better how this impacts future
> employment.
>
> Here is my understanding of the current IE agreement.
>
> If an IE does not sign the agreement he has no rights to branch the spec.
>
> If an IE signs the agreement he has no rights to branch the spec.

Right...

> So it seems to me that signing the agreement does not reduce any rights.

Only if you assume that the only avenue for publishing ideas is the W3C. Which is patently untrue as an assumption.

It doesn't take a genius to produce an extension spec that doesn't reproduce anything under W3C copyright (I know because I have done it - and people have done it for very large specs too).

A person who doesn't sign the agreement has the right to publish what they want, including suggestions for extensions to W3C work, that could well get broad industry adoption. They just don't have the right to put it into W3C work. And if, like me, they were inclined to publish under a license more restrictive than the public domain, or even a seriously restrictive license, W3C would have a hard time incorporating the work even if it were considered essential by the industry members whose participation is a big part of what makes W3C a valuable place to do work.

What Sam argues is that the restriction on IEs essentially presents them with a cost that outweighs the value proposition for them of being in the WG. The question is whether that is true, and since the answer is likely to be "it depends", the further question is whether the cost it imposes outweighs its value to the W3C and its members...

cheers

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