- From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:24:21 +0100
- To: "public-w3process@w3.org" <public-w3process@w3.org>, "Charles McCathieNevile" <chaals@opera.com>
After a bit of noodling with Art, he motivated the following thoughts.
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:16:35 +0100, Charles McCathieNevile
<chaals@opera.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:02:12 +0100, Arthur Barstow
> <art.barstow@nokia.com> wrote:
> (in another thread - http://www.w3.org/mid/4F55FCC4.3090601@nokia.com ff)
>
>> So among the problems I see are:
>
>> PAGs suck (time, resources, joy from the WG, etc.);
>> the PP takes too many resources to implement for me as an AC rep and
>> our IP department;
>> the totality of the PP for WGs plus the CG's two patent policies are at
>> least one patent policy too many.
>
> Raised ISSUE-4 on this.
...
>> Proposed solution #2 -> drop the PP for WGs and move WGs to use the CG
>> patent policies
>
> If we don't have agreement to get to "finished", that still causes
> problems... the CG process has some benefits, but also some drawbacks.
Under the current WG policy, members participating are bound to make a
commitment to the final product. Under the CG policy, the commitment only
exends to contributions from the member, with there being a seperate step
allowing them to commit to the finished spec. A plus for this is that it
could allow a member who has useful contributions to be in the group,
without having to hand over IP they don't want to talk about.
My concern (because I think getting as much RF commitment as possible is a
really really important goal) is that it is fairly easy to make sure the
spec is not finished, and easier to watch quietly while someone else
includes material that a troll knows they cover with IP, then walk away
leaving the spec effectively unimplementable for anyone who doesn't
license the IP - and without anyone even knowing, since there isn't the
requirement to identify or exclude anything.
There are nice features about the CG appraoch, like a conditional license
to implement when the spec is in development (which is important is you
want to get tests developed and passed). I think this should be explored
further...
But it depends on what the W3C membership at large want to do, and without
a lot of motivation they might just let sleeping dogs lie...
cheers
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