- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 12:24:40 -0400
- To: public-vocabs@w3.org
- Cc: Rumi Tsekova <rtsekova@openlinksw.com>, Tim Haynes <thaynes@openlinksw.co.uk>
- Message-ID: <55F1AEC8.3090405@openlinksw.com>
On 9/10/15 3:37 AM, Bo Ferri wrote: > Hi Kingsley, > > also thanks a lot for the "heads up" from your side ;) > > I was also looking at your website ;). You did the "trick", e.g., by > introducing your own ontology to assign "vendors#hasVendor" or > "products#hasFamily". This is not bad at all in general, because > custom Semantic Markup is better then no Semantic Markup. > Nevertheless, this is not really the "schema.org way" at this moment > and I'm not sure how Goog et al. will interprete (and display) this > information at their search. Answer: To be agile we make our own vocabularies. Whenever a shared variant emerges we simply map our terms accordingly. All of this happens at the vocabulary level while inference and reasoning handles content re-publication :) We don't want to publish structured data that isn't understood by the major search engines, so we stay vigilant while having fun with the mappings and publications cycles. > > So what I would like to do is having a start/landing page that briefly > describes the company itself (by utilising appropriated Semantic > Markup) + building a knowledge graph by shortly mention their services > etc. + linking to the detail pages of those services (that include > more detailed descriptions about single services). Coming back to the > website of your company: when I parse your home/landing page with > Goog's Structured Data Testing Tool, then I can find a description of > your company (incl. "relatedLink"s). However no links to offers of > this organization/corporation in the "schema.org way", i.e. > "Corporation -> Offer -> Product", nor a "schema.org entity" (not > schemaorg:WebPage, but schemaorg:Product) description of the service > itself at the detail page (you also refer to entity description (in > somehow human and machine readable way) outside of your real website). Then there's something wrong. That flow should be there, using schema.org terms. I'll take another look because that's a basic navigation structure that should be in place from our homepage doc [1]. > To conclude: yes, your company has a knowledge graph that describes > somehow your company incl. their (real) products and (broad) services. > Nevertheless, this is not always that "schema.org compatible", i.e., > I'm not sure how the famous search engine vendors will interpret this > information. See my comments above re. search engines :) > > tl;tr: I'm still looking for a living example of the "schema.org way" > for, e.g., Corporation -> Offer -> Product (Service) -> Technology ;) We should have that, in a variety of document content formats [2]. Basically: 1. Company Information 2. Offers 3. Products included in Offers -- in our case we are offering licenses 4. Technology -- in our case, this is the technology licensed 5. And much more... Links: [1] http://www.openlinksw.com -- OpenLink Home Page [2] http://www.openlinksw.com/c/97P7NDD Kingsley > > Cheers, > > > Bo/T > > > Quoting Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>: > >> On 8/29/15 12:28 PM, Bo Ferri wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> (apologies for cross-posting [1] - but the question is still not >>> really answered ;) ) >>> >>> Are there any good (living) examples (real websites) available for >>> semantic markup (schema.org etc.) at (IT) company websites*? - e.g. >>> Corporation -> Offer -> Product (Service) -> Technology ("company XY >>> offers YZ services that makes use of ZA technologies (target group AB >>> benefits from these services/solutions)"). >> >> Assuming you are looking for live examples, we do actually describe >> products, offers, and many other things using terms from the schema.org >> vocabulary, naturally [1]. Basically, I maintain a pinterest collection >> of sites I've stumbled upon that also describe various things using >> schema.org terms [2]. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> Links: >> >> [1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/389561436496679543/ -- License Offer >> (click on link to go to actual page, in many of the examples) >> [2] https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/microdata-schemaorg-related/ -- >> Pinterest pin collection dedicated to Schema.org usage >> >> >> Kingsley >> >>> >>> goal: create a knowledge graph (i.e. inter-related (!) knowledge base, >>> i.e., entities are connected between each other) of a company (that >>> hopefully helps customers to better find appropriated companies to >>> solve their problems/challenges) >>> >>> Any suggestions? >>> >>> Thanks a lot in advance. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Bo/T >>> >>> >>> *) I was just wondering a bit, since I was looking for an IT company >>> website as model/blue print and already did some research at various >>> places and didn't really find one that leverages all >>> available/possible semantic mark up (schema.org), or am I searching >>> just wrong? ;) >>> >>> >>> [1] https://plus.google.com/communities/103048251221048356778 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Kingsley Idehen >> Founder & CEO >> OpenLink Software >> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com >> Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com >> Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >> Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen >> Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about >> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >> Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this > > > > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this
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