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Re: September Update on Sports

From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:33:30 -0700
Message-ID: <541A0C3A.9070608@gmail.com>
To: "Jason Johnson (BING)" <jasjoh@microsoft.com>, PublicVocabs <public-vocabs@w3.org>
There are several problems with even this portion of the proposal.

1/ Sports are of type text in the proposal.  This is problematic in and of 
itself.  Using well-known URIs in the example makes the situation much worse. 
  There should be a type for sports, and relationships between sports.

2/ The National Football Conference is not a member of the National Football 
League.  It should be a sub-organization.

3/ Athlete is the wrong name for the relationship between a sports team and 
its players.  Many sports teams have athletes working for them who do not 
perform in sporting contests that the team participates in.  I would suggest 
that player is a much better name for this relationship.

4/ Both coach and athlete/player should be subproperties of member.

5/ The name for the relationship between a  sports organization and the sport 
that it plays is too generic.  I would suggest something much more evocative 
of the relationship, for example sportPlayed.

On a lighter note, I see that you have excluded baseball from sports, as 
baseball teams do not have any athletes.  :-)


On 09/17/2014 01:41 PM, Jason Johnson (BING) wrote:
> Hi All,
> In the interests of/'pushing something out is better than nothing'/we are
> going to slice up the 2014 Sports Vocab proposal into three distinct parts.
> This first part will be a 'Sports Agents Vocab' and focus on describing sports
> organizations and athletes. An initial draft proposal + build is completed
> and*ready for review and comment*.  I encourage you to*provide feedback
> ASAP*as we hope to ship this immediately.
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Sports
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/File:2014SportsAgentsVocab1.0.pdf
> http://sdo-sports.appspot.com/SportsOrganization
> http://sdo-sports.appspot.com/SportsTeam
> http://sdo-sports.appspot.com/numberedPosition
> The second part will be a 'Sports Events Vocab' and focus on describing sports
> events and the 'action events' (aka. plays) that occur within those events.
>   See example of such content here:
> http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=400554314.  Timelines for a
> proposal focused on this part are TBD but I would like to hear from volunteers
> interest in participating.
> The third part will focus on describing sports statistics, or more
> generically, tabular data like
> this:http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14001/colin-kaepernick.  The recent
> derivative proposal around 'Measurements' is focused on this area and there is
> strong alignment with the work around CSVs and Tabular Data
> (http://www.w3.org/blog/data/2014/07/10/csv-on-the-web-metadata-vocabulary-for-tabular-data-and-other-updates/).
> If you are interested in participating in developing a proposal for the 2nd or
> 3rd parts identified, please join the sports schema google group
> (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sports-schema-collab) and let us know.
> Cheers,
> *Jason Johnson*
> Microsoft//
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