Re: Person and fictional Re: VideoGame proposal

+1.

Is it time to resurrect my FictionalThing Type proposal?
       http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/FictionalThing

It was an attempt to introduce a simple way, through multi-typing, to identify any Thing that could be fictional.  These discussions often centre around people/characters, but fictional-ness spreads way beyond people to organisations, countries, planets, languages and lumps of rock.  It included a property to reference a [real] Thing that the fictional is a representation of.


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On 20 Oct 2014, at 08:47, martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org<mailto:martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> wrote:

Making dozens of fictionalWhatever classes strikes me as a bad idea...

+1
Martin


On 18 Oct 2014, at 13:04, chaals@yandex-team.ru<mailto:chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:

17.10.2014, 21:49, "Thad Guidry" <thadguidry@gmail.com<mailto:thadguidry@gmail.com>>:
For the record then,

I will not be mapping my Person type to Schema.org/Person<http://Schema.org/Person> if it instead keeps a high level definition of "Any Living or Non-living (Fictional or Non- Fictional) Organism".

If we do not get the FictionalCharacter into Schema.org<http://Schema.org>...do biggie for me...I am human and adaptable.

I will be mapping instead, my Person type to Schema.org/Person?fictional=false<http://Schema.org/Person?fictional=false>

That seems reasonable. But for the general web, I think it makes sense not to draw the lines so tightly.

On a philosophical level, real people become legendary and semi-fictionalised, and people discuss a Person who may or may not exist, describing characteristics without knowing a name and birthdate ("Mr Right", "our next CEO", …). Alice (erstwhile of Wonderland) is on one level a fictional person, but on another level she is Alice Liddell, who was born on a particular date and lived in a real place and so on. Christopher Robin likewise. My imaginary friend

And on a practical level the complication doesn't seem to bring us a lot. But people will get it wrong (imagine a real-life Erin Brokavich, or that Buddha was a person, or that William Wallace wasn't 9 feet tall and blue).

So I'd prefer to have the "fictional" property in general. It also applies to objects, creative works (what is Aristotle's "comedy" as discussed in "the Name of the Rose"?), customer support lines, and so on. Making dozens of fictionalWhatever classes strikes me as a bad idea...

cheers

Chaals



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