Re: Documents that supersede others

Another common case is that of chasing down cited documents. I have a 
report that cites a 1984 text on database design. To understand the 
report and why it drew the conclusions it did, I would need to look at 
that text. Gone.

Cited digital documents can be "pushed" to archiving services (such as 
the Internet Archive) where they will be stored with a unique 
identifier. Subsequent versions need to carry a link to at least the 
immediately preceding version. That's the ideal case.

Note that in the case of hard copy items, libraries do not keep a record 
of discarded books, so not only is the book gone, the record that the 
book ever existed is also gone, other than to the extent that it has 
been referenced by a still-extant document.

In other words, a huge bibliographic database like OCLC is not a 
bibliography of published works, only of works currently held in libraries.

For some reason, this bothers me.

kc

On 11/9/14 12:45 AM, chaals@yandex-team.ru wrote:
>
>
> 09.11.2014, 08:54, "Dave Caroline" <dave.thearchivist@gmail.com>:
>> Please dont forget the users who want a version of document to match
>> the item they have, I am thinking of a manual for an item, they also
>> go through various versions, sometimes with a model number change,
>> some times with a serial number/date range of device to doc relation.
>
> I started by facing a similar use case - drafts of specifications.
>
> When you implemented against a particular draft it is useful to be able to find it. But the 80% case is "the latest version (perhaps with some status or characteristic)".
>
> The behaviour I am trying to catch is attempts to remove the older versions from search results by marking them "don't index", while allowing for the 80% case to be simple - you get the one that superseded everything unless you want it to have some feature described that was removed, or something like that.
>
> cheers
>
>> Note some information is missing from the original documents and items.
>>
>> At the moment I have not added schema.org to my data because of this
>> sort of miss match.
>>
>> Dave Caroline
>>
>> An example manual search for one model number gets me 13 results in my
>> current collection.
>> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=telequipment+oscilloscope+s43
>>
>> On 09/11/2014, chaals@yandex-team.ru <chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
>>>   Hi,
>>>
>>>   we already mark properties in schema with http://schema.org/supersededBy
>>>   (whose range includes property and so far nothing else).
>>>
>>>   In various contexts entire documents do this, such as when they are being
>>>   drafted, or when version X+1 replaces version X of something, or when a
>>>   regulation is superseded by another, or when a set of rules for a sport is
>>>   updated
>>>
>>>   The specific use case is a series of drafts that turn up pretty randomly in
>>>   searches. For most purposes, the one anybody might want is the latest
>>>   (admittedly there may be more than one form of "latest").
>>>
>>>   But I can think of a bunch of others...
>>>
>>>   cheers
>>>
>>>   Chaals
>>>
>>>   --
>>>   Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
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>
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> Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
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>
>

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