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Re: [proposal] worksFor himself (freelancer)

From: Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 23:43:19 +0200
Message-ID: <CADK2AU0Rp1duRYjKdZSbhoQUqpr_eybz4z5_1sY-Hj_TPh5tZA@mail.gmail.com>
To: "martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Cc: David Deering <david@touchpointdigital.net>, W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
>
> "+1 on the idea of adding the skills etc. stuff from JobOffer to Person."


I couldn't have said it better. +1 for adding JobPosting 'stuff' to Person.


2014-05-20 17:32 GMT+02:00 martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org <
martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>:

> +1 on the idea of adding the skills etc. stuff from JobOffer to Person.
>
> Note that the Person -> makesOffer -> Offer route is for modeling offers
> made by the person, i.e. the announcement to transfer some rights on some
> object or to carry out some activity to the favor of someone, typically for
> a compensation.
>
> This is orthogonal to the question of skills, so the addition would be
> well complementing each other.
>
> A world-class pianist (Person -> skill > PlayingThePiano) may not offer to
> play the piano for you (Person -> makesOffer -> PlayThePiano), and Stephen
> Hawking does likely not offer individual training in theoretical physics.
> Both are IMO worthwhile things to model in schema.org.
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 20 May 2014, at 16:45, David Deering <david@touchpointdigital.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Personally, I would also like to see the Person type expanded a little
> more to include properties such as "skill(s)" or even "areaOfExpertise".  I
> think that it would also be nice if the expected value could be a Thing or
> Product, which would allow us to pull in other data sources such as
> Productontology, Freebase, or DBpedia to get very granular with things.
>  Currently, I don't see a clear and simple way to mark up what particular
> skills a person has or what their field of expertise is.  The Person type
> does have the jobTitle property, but of course, a job title does not in
> itself paint the entire picture regarding what a person does or can do.
> >
> > It's true that we could use Person >> makesOffer >> Offer to mark up
> what services a freelancer is offering.  But what if the person isn't a
> freelancer?  What about just being able to mark up what a person does and
> what type of skills they have,       whether they work for a company or are
> self-employed?  I think that by adding a very clear way in which to mark up
> a person's skills, we can help things on both sides--the person and search
> engines.
> >
> > At least those are my thoughts on this matter.
> >
> >
> > David Deering
> > Touch Point Digital Marketing
> > (504) 875-2225
> > david@touchpointdigital.net touchpointdigitalmarketing.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/20/2014 5:34 AM, Lorenzo De Tomasi wrote:
> >> What about if, in an Offer, the itemOffered is a Service or a
> >> ProfessionalService?
> >> Actually itemOffered seems to accept only Products.
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> 2014-05-19 22:05 GMT+02:00
> >> martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
> >> <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
> >> :
> >>
> >>> I think that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.schema.org/Person
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> already has most of what is needed, and conceptually, a Freelancer is
> just a person. Of course you could say that a Freelancer is a person that
> makes at least one offer that includes a product or service. But I do not
> think that is essential. Freelancers should be modeled as
> >>> http://www.schema.org/Person and ideally model their range of
> services using http://www.schema.org/Offer
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes / Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> >>>
> >>> Martin Hepp
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 19 May 2014, at 11:37, Lorenzo De Tomasi
> >>> <lorenzodetomasi@isotype.org>
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Also vatID can be an indicator.
> >>>> Can we write together an example?
> >>>>
> >>>> 2014-05-19 11:15 GMT+02:00
> >>>> martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
> >>>> <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
> >>>> :
> >>>>
> >>>>> I would say:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://schema.org/Person
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It can be linked to
> >>>>> http://schema.org/Offer
> >>>>> , Brand, Place, ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Martin
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 19 May 2014, at 10:40, Lorenzo De Tomasi
> >>>>> <lorenzodetomasi@isotype.org>
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> how can I semantically describe a freelancer?
> >>>>>> He works for himself and has clients and projects…
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^
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> Grazie.
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Regala a tuo figlio un bel libro (e una app). A misura di bambino
> (0-4 anni).
> >>>> Scarica gratis FACCIAMO!
> >>>> <http://www.facciamo.eu>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tra le migliori 20 app del Bologna Ragazzi Digital Award 2014
> >>>> Tra le migliori nuove app per iPad per bambini fino ai 5 anni su
> iTunes
> >>>> Vincitrice di gennaio e marzo dei Digital Experience Awards 2014,
> >>>> nelle categorie MOBILE / GAME e APP / GAME
> >>>> --
> >>>> Lorenzo De Tomasi
> >>>> ISOTYPE.org. Comunica la qualità
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://isotype.org/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Coordinatore Area web design
> >>>> Designer della comunicazione e delle interfacce
> >>>> Professionista ex Legge n. 4 del 14/1/2013
> >>>>
> >>>> Tel. 06 56 84 834
> >>>> Mobile 392 59 76 416
> >>>> Skype lorenzo.detomasi
> >>>> Google Hangout
> >>>> lorenzo.detomasi@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ^^^^^^^^^^
> >>>> Rispetta il tuo ambiente, pensa prima di stampare questa e-mail.
> Grazie.
> >>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email. Thank you.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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