- From: Liddy Nevile <liddy@sunriseresearch.org>
- Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:10:18 +1000
- To: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
- Cc: "Gerardo Capiel" <gerardoc@benetech.org>, "Charles Myers" <charlesm@benetech.org>, "Richard Schwerdtfeger" <schwer@us.ibm.com>, "a11y-metadata-project@googlegroups.com" <a11y-metadata-project@googlegroups.com>, "Alexander Shubin" <ajax@yandex-team.ru>, "Andy Heath" <andyheath@axelrod.plus.com>, "Dan Scott" <dan@coffeecode.net>, "Dan Brickley" <danbri@google.com>, "Egor Antonov" <elderos@yandex-team.ru>, Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo <emmanuelle@sidar.org>, "Jason Johnson" <jasjoh@microsoft.com>, "George Kerscher" <kerscher@montana.com>, "Madeleine Rothberg" <madeleine_rothberg@wgbh.org>, "Matt Garrish" <matt.garrish@bell.net>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Charles
I am not sure EXACTLY what you are saying.
First, accessHazard is not an accessMode - we all agree and I believe
your argument about stating it as a negative rather than a positive is
accepted. So let's set that aside for now.
I started the taxonomy but have not been careful about the next
details - which I think are the accessFeatures - ie - I think
accessMode is the very first, unqualified term (closest to the
resource) and then the others will be accessFeatures - does that make
sense?
As for legacy problems - I am very keen to make sure we sort this for
schema.org and for ISO and then I think the legacy problem will still
exist but is OK - better to get it right than be constrained for
ever---already we are moving away from ISO 24751, for example...
Liddy
On 29/09/2013, at 2:05 AM, Charles McCathie Nevile wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:30:12 +0200, Liddy Nevile <liddy@sunriseresearch.org
> > wrote:
>
>> Guys
>> below is an image of my playing with a taxonomy: Sorry, but that is
>> the only format I can get to work.
>>
>> I think that the way I have started to set up the preferences and
>> needs might work so that when a user declares a preference, the
>> appropriate accessMode can be inferred.
>
> Based on Madeleine explaining the need to something new to make
> accessMode actually work, and other people telling me that it
> doesn't, I believe it needs to be changed. I think this proposal is
> much closer to a workable way of defining accessMode, but I think
> you have added stuff that doesn't belong here.
>
> For instance, AccessHazards strike me as seperate.
>
> I don't believe that the model of a matrix of expressed user
> preferences and combinations of mediaFeatures is a scalable
> solution. That said, it seems extremely valuable to have the
> information, because it can be used to improve matching of users and
> resources. With relationships defined in a machine-readable way (RDF
> or some similarly clear model for describing related terms) I think
> we can make a lot of use even of existing mediaFeature metadata.
>
> Which brings me to another problem. Since data exists marked with
> accessMode as defined currently, I am concerned about the transition
> path, too. We can take the same names in schema.org, and retire the
> original name/namespace combination. But for stuff that we want to
> change, it makes more sense to me that we change everything at the
> same time...
>
> I'm happy to keep mediaFeature and accessHazard even though I think
> both of them need revision. IMHO mediaFeature needs better
> definition but the terms, and therefore the markup we find in the
> wild, are OK. I think we want to replace accessHazard with a
> negatively expressed version ("doesNotHaveAccessHazard") but in the
> meantime I think adopting the existing accessHazard would be a good
> idea.
>
> cheers
>
> Chaals
>
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