RE: how to go about creating a new vocab?

Diane,

Thanks for pointing out to metadataregistry.org. I believe it addresses the discoverability aspect.  What about legal perspective?  Does it carry the legal weight to its identifiers in contracts between enterprise and cloud server providers - specifically in regards to user permission provisioning?

Ralph - thanks for pointing this out.  I wonder if Oasis has some kind of registry of its vocabularies?

Regards,
Radu Marian, MSCS, SCEA, CISSP
Bank of America - Charlotte, NC
VP, Architect 2, Enterprise Security Architecture
Business phone number: (704) 628-6874
an Enterprise without Ontology is like a country without a map.

From: LeVan,Ralph [mailto:levan@oclc.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 3:02 PM
To: Diane Hillmann; Marian, Radu
Cc: Thad Guidry; public-vocabs@w3.org; Alexey Zakhlestin
Subject: RE: how to go about creating a new vocab?

I've done standards work in OASIS and they're pretty possessive about the work products from their committees.  They're going to want to be the ones to control this schema.

Ralph

From: Diane Hillmann [mailto:metadata.maven@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 1:50 PM
To: Marian, Radu
Cc: Thad Guidry; public-vocabs@w3.org; Alexey Zakhlestin
Subject: Re: how to go about creating a new vocab?

Have you looked at the Open Metadata Registry (metadataregistry.org<http://metadataregistry.org>)? We've been around for a while and currently provide vocabulary development services for free. We're actively working on upgrades and additions to the services.
Diane Hillmann
Metadata Management Associates

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Marian, Radu <radu.marian@baml.com<mailto:radu.marian@baml.com>> wrote:
That is correct Thad - thanks for clarification.

Radu Marian, MSCS, SCEA, CISSP
Bank of America - Charlotte, NC
VP, Architect 2, Enterprise Security Architecture
Business phone number: (704) 628-6874<tel:%28704%29%20628-6874>
an Enterprise without Ontology is like a country without a map.

From: Thad Guidry [mailto:thadguidry@gmail.com<mailto:thadguidry@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:20 PM
To: Marian, Radu
Cc: public-vocabs@w3.org<mailto:public-vocabs@w3.org>; Alexey Zakhlestin
Subject: RE: how to go about creating a new vocab?


I think you are really asking where you can store your draft vocabulary , work on it, and then later publish it ?
On May 2, 2013 11:15 AM, "Marian, Radu" <radu.marian@baml.com<mailto:radu.marian@baml.com>> wrote:
Alex,

Thank you - I did see them both.  They may satisfy basic Web and Social access control needs.

However our goal is to standardize on an IAM vocabulary in Cloud/Enterprise. It should cover all IAM phases - Access Design, Request, Approval, Provisioning, Runtime, Review, Analytics, and Reconciliation.

Here is the latest model snapshot https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cloudauthz/download.php/49053/entitlement.ontology.png

P.S. I am working on a write-up to describe this model.

Regards,
Radu Marian, MSCS, SCEA, CISSP
Bank of America - Charlotte, NC
VP, Architect 2, Enterprise Security Architecture
Business phone number: (704) 628-6874<tel:%28704%29%20628-6874>
an Enterprise without Ontology is like a country without a map.


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From: Alexey Zakhlestin [mailto:indeyets@gmail.com<mailto:indeyets@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Marian, Radu
Cc: public-vocabs@w3.org<mailto:public-vocabs@w3.org>
Subject: Re: how to go about creating a new vocab?


On 02.05.2013, at 19:26, "Marian, Radu" <radu.marian@baml.com<mailto:radu.marian@baml.com>> wrote:

> Dear Public Vocabs Community,
>
> At OASIS we have started a CloudAuthZ TC which is creating a new access control model.
>
> We would like to create an access control vocabulary similar to http://schema.org.  We do have  a draft model ontology for access control - however we need to move from ontology design into vocabulary registration.
>
> So the question - is where do we start?  What is the simplest way to build such a vocabulary?
>
> P.S. The vocab that we have in mind is not necessarily for Web use but rather for Enterprise and Cloud.

Did you see these ones?

http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl
http://sioc-project.org/ontology#sec-modules-access

What would be advantage of your vocabulary?



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